[Bill[_20_]]

I can't easily test this myself, so I wondered it anyone here knows the
answer.
I've been asked why, when using Windows Media Player in Windows 7 to
play wave and mp3 files, he sees and can select a countdown timer at the
bottom of the screen. However, when playing mp2 files, the countdown
timer doesn't work.
I understand that the mp2 files are of radio programmes captured
digitally from DAB broadcasts.

He thinks, but can't be certain, that it used to countdown under XP.

I wonder whether "Classic Media Player" or something else would show
this, but I can't instantly find any .mp2 files here to test with..
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[Jason[_15_]]

In article ,
says...
I wonder whether "Classic Media Player" or something else would show
this, but I can't instantly find any .mp2 files here to test with..


VLC will show a countdown at the right end of the progress bar. Normally
it just shows the duration, but if you click that field it turns into a
countdown timer.

[Bill[_20_]]

In message ,
Jason writes
In article ,
says...
I wonder whether "Classic Media Player" or something else would show
this, but I can't instantly find any .mp2 files here to test with..


VLC will show a countdown at the right end of the progress bar. Normally
it just shows the duration, but if you click that field it turns into a
countdown timer.

But does it show that timer when a mpeg1 Layer 2 file is being played?

I have now found some .mp2 files on

http://www.mpgedit.org/mpgedit/testd....html#ISO_m1l2

but they are only 1 or 2 seconds long, and I haven't yet managed to be
fast enough on the mouse to cycle through the VLC or Media Player timer
options. Setting loop playing up on WMP appears to show a countdown
timer, but it's hard to be certain.

Interestingly, VLC shows the files as 1 second long, whereas Media
Player shows 2 seconds as the length.
Properties in VLC shows the file as mpeg Layer 1/2(mpega), but Windows
Explorer says they are .mp3 files under Properties.

I think I'll have to wait until he can pass me some of his files.

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[Jason[_15_]]

In article ,
says...
But does it show that timer when a mpeg1 Layer 2 file is being played?

Yes. I found a 50-second sample file by googling.

[geoff]

On 13/09/2018 4:39 PM, Jason wrote:
In article ,
says...
But does it show that timer when a mpeg1 Layer 2 file is being played?

Yes. I found a 50-second sample file by googling.



Why not simply make one ? Assuming you have basic audio editing software ...

geoff

[Bill[_20_]]

In message , geoff
writes
On 13/09/2018 4:39 PM, Jason wrote:
In article ,
says...
But does it show that timer when a mpeg1 Layer 2 file is being played?

Yes. I found a 50-second sample file by googling.



Why not simply make one ? Assuming you have basic audio editing software ...

geoff

Thanks, Geoff.

Nowadays I just use Audition 3, which doesn't, as far as I know, enable
saving as .mp2.
When I was actively doing this a long, long time ago, I used to use a
"Media Magic" soundcard with Cool Edit, which was the only affordable
device I could find that supported .mp2. Sadly, I no longer have a
working machine with an ISA bus.

I've just tried Audacity and used it to record a test file. I am
embarrassed to say that I didn't think of looking at Reaper or the other
audio softwares I have here, either.

The countdown timer does work here in both VLC and Windows Media Player
on the files I've created, and I haven't yet managed to get hold of one
of the files that showed him the problem.

I did wonder if vbr .mp2 files might behave differently. I don't know
whether DAB .mp2 is vbr or not.
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mp2??

Are you a radio station or something?

[John Williamson]

On 13/09/2018 15:59, wrote:
mp2??

Are you a radio station or something?

Do keep up. The OP is asking on behalf of a client who has some .mp2
files he would like to know the duration and/or time to end of.

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"John Williamson" wrote in message ...

On 13/09/2018 15:59, wrote:
mp2??

Are you a radio station or something?

Do keep up.

He can't. His short-bus can't go that fast, because "the man" is keeping him
down with daylight saving time, imaginary tire pressure conspiracies, and
highly compressed Badfinger cassettes.

[Bill[_20_]]

In message , John Williamson
writes
The OP is asking on behalf of a client who has some .mp2 files he would
like to know the duration and/or time to end of.

The "client" is just a friend in not-very-good-health, particularly with
his sight, who is recording series' of radio programmes using some sort
of desktop computer interface, the whole thing being switched on and off
by timers programmed into the PC.

There are some complications to do with the way the interface comes up
and goes down, which he has to cope with, and everything recorded has
the same generic name, with suffixes, I assume.

He is an ex-broadcast engineer, and the countdown timing has something
to do with being able to identify the shows and also to identify edit
points to remove leading and trailing audio.

Everything so far is based on his one phone call. At least, with the
help here, we have established that a normal .mp2 file should show
countdown and other timers in Media player and VLC. As soon as I have
time I'll drive over, see him and bring back a copy of one of the files
to play with here.
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[geoff]

On 14/09/2018 10:49 AM, Bill wrote:


Everything so far is based on his one phone call. At least, with the
help here, we have established that a normal .mp2 file should show
countdown and other timers in Media player and VLC.

Yep, it purely a function of the player software being used, which
derives the count-up and count-down times from the file's total time.

geoff

[John Williamson]

On 13/09/2018 23:49, Bill wrote:
In message , John Williamson
writes
The OP is asking on behalf of a client who has some .mp2 files he
would like to know the duration and/or time to end of.

The "client" is just a friend in not-very-good-health, particularly with
his sight, who is recording series' of radio programmes using some sort
of desktop computer interface, the whole thing being switched on and off
by timers programmed into the PC.

Snip
Nice of you to help him like that, and glad we could help, though I was
mainly having a dig at Thekma. Thanks for the explanation, too.

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John.

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John Williamson wrote: "Nice of you to help him like that, and glad we could help, though I was
mainly having a dig at Thekma. Thanks for the explanation, too. "

I wasn't trying to be critical. But it is true that
radio stations held on to mp2 as their rip-to
format for years after mp3 debuted. Kind
of like how medical dotors attending conventions
stuck to physical slides and carousel projectors
long after PowerPoint and LCD/LED projection
became the norm.

[Ant]

Wow. I remember MP2 before MP3 during the mid 90s. I never knew it was
from radio stations from your post and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-1_Audio_Layer_II article.


Bill wrote:
I can't easily test this myself, so I wondered it anyone here knows the
answer.
I've been asked why, when using Windows Media Player in Windows 7 to
play wave and mp3 files, he sees and can select a countdown timer at the
bottom of the screen. However, when playing mp2 files, the countdown
timer doesn't work.
I understand that the mp2 files are of radio programmes captured
digitally from DAB broadcasts.

He thinks, but can't be certain, that it used to countdown under XP.

I wonder whether "Classic Media Player" or something else would show
this, but I can't instantly find any .mp2 files here to test with..

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