[Robert Peirce]

Currently I pipe iTunes over ethernet to an AppleTV that has an optical
connection to my DAC. I believe I am correct that the AppleTV only does
44.1/16, while software on my Mac allows up to 192/24. Is there a
device I could use in place of the AppleTV (and, possibly, the DAC) that
would allow me to transfer and play at higher rates?

[Audio Empire]

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:09:01 -0700, Robert Peirce wrote
(in article ):

Currently I pipe iTunes over ethernet to an AppleTV that has an optical
connection to my DAC. I believe I am correct that the AppleTV only does
44.1/16, while software on my Mac allows up to 192/24. Is there a
device I could use in place of the AppleTV (and, possibly, the DAC) that
would allow me to transfer and play at higher rates?


Logitech Squeezebox Touch.

http://tinyurl.com/29n2rya

Handles up to 24/96. It also has a piece of software for Mac, Windows, and
Linux/Unix that when installed turns computer into a local music server.
Softeware connects directly with iTunes database and even supports album
covers on the Squeezebox. Has both 802.11G and CAT5 connectability as well as
outputs for TOSLINK, coaxial, R+L stereo, and headphones. Uses a capacitive
touch screen that is very sensitive and the interface is fairly intuitive,
but the manual that comes with the thing is next to useless - however you can
download a complete manual from Logitech that is very comprehensive and
you'll need that for some things. It's a GREAT internet "radio" client.

I think that my favorite feature is the fact that I don't need the !@#$%^&
television turned-on to use the thing like you do with the AppleTV!

[Robert Peirce]

In article ,
Audio Empire wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:09:01 -0700, Robert Peirce wrote
(in article ):

Currently I pipe iTunes over ethernet to an AppleTV that has an optical
connection to my DAC. I believe I am correct that the AppleTV only does
44.1/16, while software on my Mac allows up to 192/24. Is there a
device I could use in place of the AppleTV (and, possibly, the DAC) that
would allow me to transfer and play at higher rates?


Logitech Squeezebox Touch.

http://tinyurl.com/29n2rya

Handles up to 24/96. It also has a piece of software for Mac, Windows, and
Linux/Unix that when installed turns computer into a local music server.

Thanks but not quite what I am after. I have Pure Vinyl 3, which
contains their player. The player connects to iTunes and allows 192/24
(or 196/24; I forget). It also queues music in memory so it doesn't
have to be played off the HD.

My problem is I can't really benefit from this by connecting to the
AppleTV. I think my DAC can handle it, but I am not at home to confirm
that. Anyhow, I am looking for a replacement for the AppleTV that can
be fed over ethernet and has an optical output for my DAC, or one device
that does both.

[Audio Empire]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:41:21 -0700, Robert Peirce wrote
(in article ):

In article ,
Audio Empire wrote:

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:09:01 -0700, Robert Peirce wrote
(in article ):

Currently I pipe iTunes over ethernet to an AppleTV that has an optical
connection to my DAC. I believe I am correct that the AppleTV only does
44.1/16, while software on my Mac allows up to 192/24. Is there a
device I could use in place of the AppleTV (and, possibly, the DAC) that
would allow me to transfer and play at higher rates?


Logitech Squeezebox Touch.

http://tinyurl.com/29n2rya

Handles up to 24/96. It also has a piece of software for Mac, Windows, and
Linux/Unix that when installed turns computer into a local music server.

Thanks but not quite what I am after. I have Pure Vinyl 3, which
contains their player. The player connects to iTunes and allows 192/24
(or 196/24; I forget). It also queues music in memory so it doesn't
have to be played off the HD.

My problem is I can't really benefit from this by connecting to the
AppleTV. I think my DAC can handle it, but I am not at home to confirm
that. Anyhow, I am looking for a replacement for the AppleTV that can
be fed over ethernet and has an optical output for my DAC, or one device
that does both.


I don't understand. The Logitech device meets every one of those
requirements. The server software cues the music from the computer's HDD, and
it should support Pure Vinyl 3. It has both optical and coaxial digital
outputs (to connect to your DAC) plus it has it's own built-in DAC. It will
connect to your computer via either ethernet or Wi-Fi. The only thing in your
list that it doesn't support is 24/192. OTOH, Why the hell would you need 192
KHz sampling rate? All it does is extend the digital frequency response to
about 96 kHz (half the sampling frequency) and there's nothing up there in
that stratosphere but noise. Also, if you are playing music ripped from
vinyl, there's no highs on a record above 15-20 KHz, and even if there were,
no cartridge has response that high and wouldn't be able to resolve that high
of a frequency anyway (which, BTW, would be wiped off the record the first
time you played it.).

But all that aside, if you've made-up your mind that the Squeezebox Touch is
NOT what you're looking for, good luck with your continuing search.

[Robert Peirce]

In article ,
Audio Empire wrote:

I don't understand. The Logitech device meets every one of those
requirements. The server software cues the music from the computer's HDD, and
it should support Pure Vinyl 3. It has both optical and coaxial digital
outputs (to connect to your DAC) plus it has it's own built-in DAC. It will
connect to your computer via either ethernet or Wi-Fi.

I may have mis-understood. The way I read your original post I had to
use their software to make it work. I want to use my software and send
the output to a device that is connected to my HiFi system. Is that
possible?

[Audio Empire]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:40:16 -0700, Robert Peirce wrote
(in article ):

In article ,
Audio Empire wrote:

I don't understand. The Logitech device meets every one of those
requirements. The server software cues the music from the computer's HDD,
and
it should support Pure Vinyl 3. It has both optical and coaxial digital
outputs (to connect to your DAC) plus it has it's own built-in DAC. It will
connect to your computer via either ethernet or Wi-Fi.

I may have mis-understood. The way I read your original post I had to
use their software to make it work. I want to use my software and send
the output to a device that is connected to my HiFi system. Is that
possible?


The only software that you need to install on your computer is the server
software. This allows your computer to connect with the Squeezebox Touch. You
can name any folder that you designate on your computer as the source folder.
I use (and Logitech recommends) the iTunes' database folder, but it can be
any folder you like. You can even pick several and switch between them from
the Squeezebox Touch's touch screen or remote control. Anything that iTunes
(or I) put in that folder shows up on the Touch (even the iTunes cover
artwork). I even have HDTracks 24/96 downloads placed directly in the iTunes
library database folder that show up (again with downloaded cover artwork) in
the "My Music" menu item on the Touch. All-in -all, its a pretty nifty
device. Added bonus - when the Touch is turned off, the screen becomes a nice
digital clock with big, easy to read numerals.

[John Stone]

Thanks but not quite what I am after. I have Pure Vinyl 3, which
contains their player. The player connects to iTunes and allows 192/24
(or 196/24; I forget). It also queues music in memory so it doesn't
have to be played off the HD.

My problem is I can't really benefit from this by connecting to the
AppleTV. I think my DAC can handle it, but I am not at home to confirm
that. Anyhow, I am looking for a replacement for the AppleTV that can
be fed over ethernet and has an optical output for my DAC, or one device
that does both.


Wouldn't an Airport Express handle this?

[Robert Peirce]

In article ,
John Stone wrote:

Thanks but not quite what I am after. I have Pure Vinyl 3, which
contains their player. The player connects to iTunes and allows 192/24
(or 196/24; I forget). It also queues music in memory so it doesn't
have to be played off the HD.

My problem is I can't really benefit from this by connecting to the
AppleTV. I think my DAC can handle it, but I am not at home to confirm
that. Anyhow, I am looking for a replacement for the AppleTV that can
be fed over ethernet and has an optical output for my DAC, or one device
that does both.


Wouldn't an Airport Express handle this?

You will have to tell me more but I don't think so. It appears to just
duplicate what AppleTV does. If so, it will also be limited to 44.1/16.

[Audio Empire]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:32:43 -0700, John Stone wrote
(in article ):

Thanks but not quite what I am after. I have Pure Vinyl 3, which
contains their player. The player connects to iTunes and allows 192/24
(or 196/24; I forget). It also queues music in memory so it doesn't
have to be played off the HD.

My problem is I can't really benefit from this by connecting to the
AppleTV. I think my DAC can handle it, but I am not at home to confirm
that. Anyhow, I am looking for a replacement for the AppleTV that can
be fed over ethernet and has an optical output for my DAC, or one device
that does both.


Wouldn't an Airport Express handle this?


Yes, but you still need a "client" to access your music. Without it you'd be
running back and forth to your computer all the time to select what to play.

[John Stone]

On 6/28/11 6:04 PM, in article , "Audio Empire"
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:32:43 -0700, John Stone wrote
(in article ):

Thanks but not quite what I am after. I have Pure Vinyl 3, which
contains their player. The player connects to iTunes and allows 192/24
(or 196/24; I forget). It also queues music in memory so it doesn't
have to be played off the HD.

My problem is I can't really benefit from this by connecting to the
AppleTV. I think my DAC can handle it, but I am not at home to confirm
that. Anyhow, I am looking for a replacement for the AppleTV that can
be fed over ethernet and has an optical output for my DAC, or one device
that does both.


Wouldn't an Airport Express handle this?


Yes, but you still need a "client" to access your music. Without it you'd be
running back and forth to your computer all the time to select what to play.

If you have an Ipod touch, Ipad, or Iphone, you could use the Air Play app
and control it remotely on a wireless network.

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[Robert Peirce]

In article ,
Audio Empire wrote:

Logitech Squeezebox Touch.

http://tinyurl.com/29n2rya

Handles up to 24/96. It also has a piece of software for Mac, Windows, and
Linux/Unix that when installed turns computer into a local music server.
Softeware connects directly with iTunes database and even supports album
covers on the Squeezebox. Has both 802.11G and CAT5 connectability as well as
outputs for TOSLINK, coaxial, R+L stereo, and headphones. Uses a capacitive
touch screen that is very sensitive and the interface is fairly intuitive,
but the manual that comes with the thing is next to useless - however you can
download a complete manual from Logitech that is very comprehensive and
you'll need that for some things. It's a GREAT internet "radio" client.

I went to the web site and it still doesn't look like what I am after,
although it may be. I already have the music server software I need.

All I am looking for is a conduit to my HiFi, either something that can
receive the signal and optically pass it on to my DAC or something that
has the DAC built in with RCA or balanced outputs. It also has to be as
good as the AppleTV from an audio standpoint. A lot of stuff isn't. If
the Squeezebox Touch can do this it may be worth a look.

I think that my favorite feature is the fact that I don't need the !@#$%^&
television turned-on to use the thing like you do with the AppleTV!

I had to use a TV to set it up but not to use it. It would be nice if
this were not necessary, but not critical.

[Audio Empire]

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:09:50 -0700, Robert Peirce wrote
(in article ):

In article ,
Audio Empire wrote:

Logitech Squeezebox Touch.

http://tinyurl.com/29n2rya

Handles up to 24/96. It also has a piece of software for Mac, Windows, and
Linux/Unix that when installed turns computer into a local music server.
Softeware connects directly with iTunes database and even supports album
covers on the Squeezebox. Has both 802.11G and CAT5 connectability as well
as
outputs for TOSLINK, coaxial, R+L stereo, and headphones. Uses a capacitive
touch screen that is very sensitive and the interface is fairly intuitive,
but the manual that comes with the thing is next to useless - however you
can
download a complete manual from Logitech that is very comprehensive and
you'll need that for some things. It's a GREAT internet "radio" client.

I went to the web site and it still doesn't look like what I am after,
although it may be. I already have the music server software I need.

No you don't. iTunes is not server software, it's just ripping software with
a database. The server software merely allows your computer and the
squeezebox Touch to "talk" to one another over your local in-house network.
Once installed and running you never see it again.

All I am looking for is a conduit to my HiFi, either something that can
receive the signal and optically pass it on to my DAC or something that
has the DAC built in with RCA or balanced outputs. It also has to be as
good as the AppleTV from an audio standpoint. A lot of stuff isn't. If
the Squeezebox Touch can do this it may be worth a look.

That's exactly what the Squeezebox Touch IS.

I think that my favorite feature is the fact that I don't need the !@#$%^&
television turned-on to use the thing like you do with the AppleTV!

I had to use a TV to set it up but not to use it. It would be nice if
this were not necessary, but not critical.

Then how do you choose what you want to play from the AppleTV box. You can't
navigate through your albums with the AppleTV box without having your TV on
so that you can see what you are choosing to listen to????!!!!

[Robert Peirce]

In article ,
Audio Empire wrote:

No you don't. iTunes is not server software, it's just ripping software with
a database. The server software merely allows your computer and the
squeezebox Touch to "talk" to one another over your local in-house network.
Once installed and running you never see it again.

Perhaps we have a problem with terminology. I use iTunes as the server.
All my stuff is loaded on my computer's RAID system. I select what I
want to play, individually or a playlist, in iTunes and send it to the
AppleTV to convert it to optical. I suppose, if I had an optical output
on my MacBook Pro I could go directly to my DAC, except the computer is
on the other side of the room.

ITunes may not be the best music server, but it is hard to beat at the
price. With the MyVinyl Player front end, it also has the potential for
superb quality. I have been very happy with it. I have been less happy
with the limitations of the AppleTV.

I think that my favorite feature is the fact that I don't need the !@#$%^&
television turned-on to use the thing like you do with the AppleTV!

I had to use a TV to set it up but not to use it. It would be nice if
this were not necessary, but not critical.

Then how do you choose what you want to play from the AppleTV box. You can't
navigate through your albums with the AppleTV box without having your TV on
so that you can see what you are choosing to listen to????!!!!

I don't. I only use the AppleTV to receive a digital signal from my
computer and convert it to an optical signal for my DAC. That is what I
am trying to replace.

[Audio Empire]

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:41:57 -0700, Robert Peirce wrote
(in article ):

In article ,
Audio Empire wrote:

No you don't. iTunes is not server software, it's just ripping software
with
a database. The server software merely allows your computer and the
squeezebox Touch to "talk" to one another over your local in-house network.
Once installed and running you never see it again.

Perhaps we have a problem with terminology. I use iTunes as the server.
All my stuff is loaded on my computer's RAID system. I select what I
want to play, individually or a playlist, in iTunes and send it to the
AppleTV to convert it to optical. I suppose, if I had an optical output
on my MacBook Pro I could go directly to my DAC, except the computer is
on the other side of the room.

ITunes may not be the best music server, but it is hard to beat at the
price. With the MyVinyl Player front end, it also has the potential for
superb quality. I have been very happy with it. I have been less happy
with the limitations of the AppleTV.

I think that my favorite feature is the fact that I don't need the
!@#$%^&
television turned-on to use the thing like you do with the AppleTV!

I had to use a TV to set it up but not to use it. It would be nice if
this were not necessary, but not critical.

Then how do you choose what you want to play from the AppleTV box. You
can't
navigate through your albums with the AppleTV box without having your TV on
so that you can see what you are choosing to listen to????!!!!

I don't. I only use the AppleTV to receive a digital signal from my
computer and convert it to an optical signal for my DAC. That is what I
am trying to replace.


Then just get an Airport Express box.

http://tinyurl.com/ye3nb2a

[bella10388]

Originally Posted by Audio Empire

On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 07:09:01 -0700, Robert Peirce wrote
(in article ):

Currently I pipe iTunes over ethernet to an AppleTV that has an optical
connection to my DAC. I believe I am correct that the AppleTV only does
44.1/16, while software on my Mac allows up to 192/24. Is there a
device I could use in place of the AppleTV (and, possibly, the DAC) that
would allow me to transfer and play at higher rates?


Logitech Squeezebox Touch.

http://tinyurl.com/29n2rya

Handles up to 24/96. It also has a piece of software for Mac, Windows, and
Linux/Unix that when installed turns computer into a local music server.
Softeware connects directly with iTunes database and even supports album
covers on the Squeezebox. Has both 802.11G and CAT5 connectability as well as
outputs for TOSLINK, coaxial, R+L stereo, and headphones. Uses a capacitive
touch screen that is very sensitive and the interface is fairly intuitive,
but the manual that comes with the thing is next to useless - however you can
download a complete manual from Logitech that is very comprehensive and
you'll need that for some things. It's a GREAT internet "radio" client.

I think that my favorite feature is the fact that I don't need the !@#$%^&
television turned-on to use the thing like you do with the AppleTV!

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