[TT]

Please, please be aware that the rest of the World does NOT care about you
internal politics and **DO** actually visit audio based groups to discuss
audio and NOT US politics. I know this must come as a complete shock but
can't you take your political diatribe to a political group?

So come on guys, have a heart? Leave off the OT crap that pollutes this
site or at least go back to Arny bashing as that is at least a little
beneficial to audio in general ;-)

Note: Before anyone says "killfile the posters" or "don't read the threads"
sometimes there is some intelligent discussion inside that has gone way off
the topic. Like Arny bashing ;-)

And now a note to Arny. Please grow a sense of humour? :-))

Anyone that wishes to disagree, meet me at the grassy knoll in Dallas. Oh
and make sure your car has the top down ;-)

Cheers TT

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

TT said:

Please, please be aware that the rest of the World does NOT care about you
internal politics and **DO** actually visit audio based groups to discuss
audio and NOT US politics. I know this must come as a complete shock but
can't you take your political diatribe to a political group?

I will if Scottie does.

BTW, I've never seen "introverted" (assuming that's what you intended)
used to mean chauvinistic. Is that an established meaning in Oz?

[[email protected]]

On Sep 13, 2:01*am, "TT" wrote:
Please, please be aware that the rest of the World does NOT care about you
internal politics and **DO** actually visit audio based groups to discuss
audio and NOT US politics. *I know this must come as a complete shock but
can't you take your political diatribe to a political group?

So come on guys, have a heart? *Leave off the OT crap that pollutes this
site or at least go back to Arny bashing as that is at least a little
beneficial to audio in general ;-)

Note: *Before anyone says "killfile the posters" or "don't read the threads"
sometimes there is some intelligent discussion inside that has gone way off
the topic. *Like Arny bashing ;-)

And now a note to Arny. *Please grow a sense of humour? :-))

Anyone that wishes to disagree, meet me at the grassy knoll in Dallas. Oh
and make sure your car has the top down ;-)

Cheers TT

If it is any help you are not alone feeling that this "audio" group is
now a forum for endless exchange of idiocies by bores inflicting their
elementary school v"iews" onto the helpless radio waves.. I for one
skip 90% of it and if we are not alone this "rec" group is about to
give up the ghost.as "rec.audio"and vegatate as "rec. bores"
Ludovic Mirabel

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 13, 2:01�am, "TT" wrote:
Please, please be aware that the rest of the World does NOT care about you
internal politics and **DO** actually visit audio based groups to discuss
audio and NOT US politics. �I know this must come as a complete shock but
can't you take your political diatribe to a political group?

So come on guys, have a heart? �Leave off the OT crap that pollutes this
site or at least go back to Arny bashing as that is at least a little
beneficial to audio in general ;-)

I hear ya, buddy. Personally, I've only joined because I've noticed a
lack of true political discussion, only a mindless regurgitation of
the biased viewpoints of bloggers. We've been discussing politics on
RAO for years, but both ScottW and Bret Ludwig have dropped the level
of discourse considerably. Bret's OT posts always annoyed me because
he always seemed like a spambot to me, providing links to an almost
random assortment of articles without any bridge to actual discussion
within the group. (It's even more amusing when he claims we don't
want to discuss audio when he does introduce the topic, but what he
fails to realize is the large percentage of RAO posters who have him
killfiled or just plain ignore him due to his past posting behaviors.)

For a few years I've given Scott a pass because I've met him several
times in person. And I'm certainly not trying to trash him or attack
him. It's just that I think he's sunk even lower than Bret recently
because he really doesn't bring anything to the discussion. He seldom
introduces OT threads that add any insight to the subject. A majority
of times we have no idea how Scott feels about his own thread until a
half dozen posts have been added. His vague subject lines indicate
that he's putting as little of an effort into having true discussions
here as possible, which shows a certain level of contempt and
disrespect to the others. He just wants to argue and be contrary. He
is a textbook example of a man who is spending too much time arguing
on the Internet, losing his humanity in the process.

I think that OT discussion on RAO is a good thing...in moderation.
Many of us here have known each other for close to a decade or even
more, and we know each other relatively well. It's only natural that
we want to discuss politics or religion on an unmoderated NG. But as
far as your comments about our chauvinism are concerned, I have to
remind that quite a bit of this discussion was initiated by one of
your compatriots (Trevor). So we Americans have to assume that there
is some interest in this election on a more international scale.

This election is historic on so many levels. It is consuming the
attention of the average American. Hang in there, though...it'll all
settle down in a couple of months.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 13 Sep, 14:38, Vinylanach wrote:


I hear ya, buddy. *Personally, I've only joined because I've noticed a
lack of true political discussion, only a mindless regurgitation of
the biased viewpoints of bloggers.

I especially enjoyed your rational discussion of the Palin baby
\conspiracy theory.

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 13, 12:37�pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 13 Sep, 14:38, Vinylanach wrote:



I hear ya, buddy. �Personally, I've only joined because I've noticed a
lack of true political discussion, only a mindless regurgitation of
the biased viewpoints of bloggers.

I especially enjoyed your rational discussion of the Palin baby
\conspiracy theory.

Yeah, thanks. Those discussions were based on my own observations by
the way, and not from bloggers. Again, it seems completely rational
to me that a woman who is 7-months pregnant show be showing, and that
she would inform her personal staff of her pregnancy before the sixth
month, and the she wouldn't provide a poor example to other expecting
mothers in Alaska by flying in a plane for eight hours AFTER her water
broke.

It seems irrational to me that someone would dispute this information
based upon political party affiliation.

Boon

[Clyde Slick]

On 13 Sep, 15:59, Vinylanach wrote:
On Sep 13, 12:37 pm, Clyde Slick wrote:

On 13 Sep, 14:38, Vinylanach wrote:

I hear ya, buddy. Personally, I've only joined because I've noticed a
lack of true political discussion, only a mindless regurgitation of
the biased viewpoints of bloggers.

I especially enjoyed your rational discussion of the Palin baby
\conspiracy theory.

Yeah, thanks. *Those discussions were based on my own observations by
the way, and not from bloggers. *Again, it seems completely rational
to me that a woman who is 7-months pregnant show be showing, and that
she would inform her personal staff of her pregnancy before the sixth
month, and the she wouldn't provide a poor example to other expecting
mothers in Alaska by flying in a plane for eight hours AFTER her water
broke.

It seems irrational to me that someone would dispute this information
based upon political party affiliation.


Maybe the liittle retard is really God's kid!

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 13, 3:47�pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 13 Sep, 15:59, Vinylanach wrote:





On Sep 13, 12:37 pm, Clyde Slick wrote:

On 13 Sep, 14:38, Vinylanach wrote:

I hear ya, buddy. Personally, I've only joined because I've noticed a
lack of true political discussion, only a mindless regurgitation of
the biased viewpoints of bloggers.

I especially enjoyed your rational discussion of the Palin baby
\conspiracy theory.

Yeah, thanks. �Those discussions were based on my own observations by
the way, and not from bloggers. �Again, it seems completely rational
to me that a woman who is 7-months pregnant show be showing, and that
she would inform her personal staff of her pregnancy before the sixth
month, and the she wouldn't provide a poor example to other expecting
mothers in Alaska by flying in a plane for eight hours AFTER her water
broke.

It seems irrational to me that someone would dispute this information
based upon political party affiliation.

Maybe the liittle retard is really God's kid!-

I'm not sure if Bristol is the momma, or Sarah. That's not the
point. The truth is probably some other crazy thing. But I will
apologize for my comments about Sarah Plain if the following questions
are answered:

1. Why are there photos of a slim, svelte Palin in a tight-fitting
dress when she was supposed to be seven months pregnant? Arny's
explanation that not all women show after 7 months is the rantings of
a 'tard. I told my sister-in-law, a maternity scrub nurse, what Arny
said and she laughed hysterically. The only logical explanations are
that the photos were dated incorrectly, or that Palin was not
pregnant.

2. Why did Palin wait until she was 6 months pregnant to tell her
personal staff that she was pregnant? Wouldn't they have noticed?
(Not in Arny's world!) Wouldn't they have needed to adjust her
schedule accordingly? You would think that she would consider her
personal staff to be close to her in some way, and that someone would
have known in advance. The only logical explanations are that Palin
was embarrassed about her pregnancy (not really consistent with the
whole Bible-thumping thing), or that Palin was not pregnant.

3. Why did Palin jump on a 8-hour flight after her water broke? When
you deliver your fifth child, labor can be kind of quick. Plus, you're
not supposed to fly that late in the pregnancy because the air
pressure can be harmful to the fetus. The only logical explanations
are that Plain is a supreme dumbass (not one of my "dem talking
points" for a VP candidiate), or that she was not pregnant.

So far, the rebuttal to this argument is:

"Sarah Palin is Trig's mother, and how dare you start these rumors.
Oh, by the way, Bristol's five months pregnant, so there."

Wow. If these guys get into the White House, they're going to make
the Watergate coverup look like telling your girlfriend she doesn't
look fat in those jeans.

Boon

[Trevor Wilson[_2_]]

"TT" wrote in message
...
Please, please be aware that the rest of the World does NOT care about you
internal politics and **DO** actually visit audio based groups to discuss
audio and NOT US politics. I know this must come as a complete shock but
can't you take your political diatribe to a political group?

**I disagree Terry. The rest of the world DOES care about US politics. The
last two elections in the US have seen the election of a person who has
almost dragged this planet to the brink of disaster. A President who is
completely oblivious to the issue of global warming. A President who has
shown care only for his buddies in the oil industry and a VP who is solely
concerned with the share price of Halliburton. A President who has managed
to bring the US economy to it's knees, dragging other economies (ours
included) with it. It is VITAL to the world that the US voters get it right
this time. We've had 8 wasted years. Let's hope that US voters come to their
senses this time 'round. We cannot afford another dumb choice.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[TT]

"Trevor Wilson" wrote in message
...



"TT" wrote in message
...
Please, please be aware that the rest of the World does NOT care about
you internal politics and **DO** actually visit audio based groups to
discuss audio and NOT US politics. I know this must come as a complete
shock but can't you take your political diatribe to a political group?

**I disagree Terry. The rest of the world DOES care about US politics.

Trevor you are answering this out of context. I do care about US politics
as well BUT not in an Audio Group. This is essentially my point.. Obviously
the occasional bit of OT stuff is good but IMHO there is just a flood of it
here.

The last two elections in the US have seen the election of a person who
has almost dragged this planet to the brink of disaster

It has been "disarster" for a lot of people! 3,500 dead in Iraq, more in
Afganistan, millions have lost their homes in the Sub-prime fiasco, more are
losing them in the market crash etc, etc.

.\ A President who is

a comedian (at best).

completely oblivious to the issue of global warming. A President who has
shown care only for his buddies in the oil industry and a VP who is solely
concerned with the share price of Halliburton. A President who has managed
to bring the US economy to it's knees, dragging other economies (ours
included) with it.

Yes and people here are losing their homes as well.

It is VITAL to the world that the US voters get it right this time.

Don't hold your breath. Are these the same voters that put George W. back
for a second term????? ;-)

We've had 8 wasted years. Let's hope that US voters come to their senses
this time 'round. We cannot afford another dumb choice.


I just hope these guys realise it is a vote for the vice presidents? One is
that old his life expectancy is limited and the other may as well have a
target drawn on his forehead ;-)

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
Regardless Trevor I would still prefer to discuss audio in an audio group
;-)

Cheers Terry

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 13, 4:01*am, "TT" wrote:
Please, please be aware that the rest of the World does NOT care about you
internal politics and **DO** actually visit audio based groups to discuss
audio and NOT US politics. *I know this must come as a complete shock but
can't you take your political diatribe to a political group?

I've tried this tactic here before. I admit that recently I've posted
a number of OT topics related to US politics. I have done so very
seldom, if at all, in the past. So why now?

1. I'm sick of ignorant whackos like 2pid and Bratzi dominating the
group with their posts.

2. 2pid recently said that he "gave respect where he thought people
deserved it" but implied that he did not have to otherwise, although
he calls for "respect" frequently. My posts reflect this 'logic'.

3. I got sick of the lies, distortions and propaganda being put out by
some of the conservatives on this group and decided to give them a
dose of their own medicine, even though what I have posted has been
based in truth rather than lies.

4. Like the conservatives here, I did it because I can. Just try to
'oppress' my 'differing POV'!

5. Like some of the conservatives here, there is no other agenda than
to 'save' RAO.

[TT]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"
wrote in message
...
On Sep 13, 4:01 am, "TT"
wrote:
Please, please be aware that the rest of the World does
NOT care about you
internal politics and **DO** actually visit audio based
groups to discuss
audio and NOT US politics. I know this must come as a
complete shock but
can't you take your political diatribe to a political
group?

I've tried this tactic here before. I admit that recently
I've posted
a number of OT topics related to US politics. I have done so
very
seldom, if at all, in the past. So why now?

1. I'm sick of ignorant whackos like 2pid and Bratzi
dominating the
group with their posts.

2. 2pid recently said that he "gave respect where he thought
people
deserved it" but implied that he did not have to otherwise,
although
he calls for "respect" frequently. My posts reflect this
'logic'.

3. I got sick of the lies, distortions and propaganda being
put out by
some of the conservatives on this group and decided to give
them a
dose of their own medicine, even though what I have posted
has been
based in truth rather than lies.

4. Like the conservatives here, I did it because I can. Just
try to
'oppress' my 'differing POV'!

5. Like some of the conservatives here, there is no other
agenda than
to 'save' RAO.

As I said the occasional stuff is not only fine but can be
informative and entertaining as well. I just have a dislike
for the over abundance of it at the moment :-(

Cheers TT

[Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!]

On Sep 14, 10:10*pm, "TT" wrote:

As I said the occasional stuff is not only fine but can be
informative and entertaining as well. *I just have a dislike
for the over abundance of it at the moment :-(

I have British friends who cannot believe that our campaign cycle
lasts this long. What is it in GB? Six weeks? I'll buy that. We should
enact laws to do the same here. After 2-1/2 years all the republicans
can do is make stuff up about lipstick and pigs and make fake claims
about sex ed for kindergartners. Their empty policy positions were
done months ago.

It'll all be over in another six weeks for us too. :-)

[George M. Middius[_4_]]

Shhhh! said:

I have British friends who cannot believe that our campaign cycle
lasts this long. What is it in GB? Six weeks? I'll buy that. We should
enact laws to do the same here.

Wasn't the primary system we now have originally touted as a way of
empowering the electorate?

[TT]

"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in message
...
On Sep 14, 10:10 pm, "TT" wrote:

As I said the occasional stuff is not only fine but can be
informative and entertaining as well. I just have a dislike
for the over abundance of it at the moment :-(

I have British friends who cannot believe that our campaign cycle
lasts this long. What is it in GB? Six weeks? I'll buy that. We should
enact laws to do the same here. After 2-1/2 years all the republicans
can do is make stuff up about lipstick and pigs and make fake claims
about sex ed for kindergartners. Their empty policy positions were
done months ago.

It'll all be over in another six weeks for us too. :-)

We have just had a State election here and it was all over in 4 weeks. The
ex-Premier thought he would do a swiftie and call it during the Olympics and
Football finals so as to not attract attention to it. He got it wrong and
is now unemployed :-))

What a long boring, drawn out, boring, slow and boring procedure you guys
have. Did I mention boring?

Short and sweet is the answer ;-)

Cheers TT

[Vinylanach]

On Sep 15, 6:48�am, "TT" wrote:
"Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!" wrote in ...
On Sep 14, 10:10 pm, "TT" wrote:

As I said the occasional stuff is not only fine but can be
informative and entertaining as well. I just have a dislike
for the over abundance of it at the moment :-(

I have British friends who cannot believe that our campaign cycle
lasts this long. What is it in GB? Six weeks? I'll buy that. We should
enact laws to do the same here. After 2-1/2 years all the republicans
can do is make stuff up about lipstick and pigs and make fake claims
about sex ed for kindergartners. Their empty policy positions were
done months ago.

It'll all be over in another six weeks for us too. :-)

We have just had a State election here and it was all over in 4 weeks. �The
ex-Premier thought he would do a swiftie and call it during the Olympics and
Football finals so as to not attract attention to it. �He got it wrong and
is now unemployed :-))

What a long boring, drawn out, boring, slow �and boring procedure you guys
have. �Did I mention boring?

Short and sweet is the answer �;-)

Think about all of the good that can be done with the hundreds of
millions dollars used to buy advertising during this period.

Boon