[WindsorFox[_3_]]

Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???


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WindsorFoxSS wrote:
Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

Isn't FLAC lossless ? And WMA isn't ?

I guess it depends on how much space you want to save. Why not just LPCM
WAVs

geoff

[WindsorFox[_3_]]

geoff wrote:
WindsorFoxSS wrote:
Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

Isn't FLAC lossless ? And WMA isn't ?

I guess it depends on how much space you want to save. Why not just LPCM
WAVs

geoff


They are both listed as lossless.


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[Richard Crowley]

"WindsorFoxSS" wrote ...
Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

Not until you precisely define "best" *in your context.*
And tell us what "archiving" means in your world, also.

[Eeyore]

"WindsorFox" wrote:

Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

Linear PCM perhaps ?

Graham

[WindsorFox[_3_]]

Eeyore wrote:

"WindsorFox" wrote:

Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

Linear PCM perhaps ?

Graham


That wasn't an option. Exact Audio Copy is what the program is and I
guess it offers an archiving feature. I've had a couple of people
recommend it as making the best quality cd copies and rips of any other
app available.

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[Don Pearce]

WindsorFoxSS wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

"WindsorFox" wrote:

Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

Linear PCM perhaps ?

Graham


That wasn't an option. Exact Audio Copy is what the program is and I
guess it offers an archiving feature. I've had a couple of people
recommend it as making the best quality cd copies and rips of any other
app available.


If you are ripping a CD, they use Linear PCM, so Exact Audio Copy will
give you a LPCM archive - that is the only option.

d

[WindsorFox[_3_]]

don pearce wrote:

WindsorFoxSS wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

"WindsorFox" wrote:

Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

Linear PCM perhaps ?

Graham


That wasn't an option. Exact Audio Copy is what the program is and
I guess it offers an archiving feature. I've had a couple of people
recommend it as making the best quality cd copies and rips of any
other app available.


If you are ripping a CD, they use Linear PCM, so Exact Audio Copy will
give you a LPCM archive - that is the only option.

d

I've not yet used the program, so I can't refute that. All I can say
is that during the initial setup it asked how I wanted to save music for
archiving, FLAC or WMA lossless, please check one....

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[Mr.T]

"don pearce" wrote in message
news:4dadnVc9ovz2aZDVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@plusnet...
That wasn't an option. Exact Audio Copy is what the program is and I
guess it offers an archiving feature. I've had a couple of people
recommend it as making the best quality cd copies and rips of any other
app available.


If you are ripping a CD, they use Linear PCM, so Exact Audio Copy will
give you a LPCM archive - that is the only option.


Of course they can save the LPCM file without conversion, but most ripping
programs will also use a codec before saving the file to disk, if you select
that option. EAC can call many external codecs, or seamlessly use a codec
..DLL like LAME for example. So saying it is the "only" option is not exactly
correct since the data need not even be saved to disk before conversion,
given sufficient memory, which most computers have these days.

MrT.

[Don Pearce]

Mr.T wrote:
"don pearce" wrote in message
news:4dadnVc9ovz2aZDVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@plusnet...
That wasn't an option. Exact Audio Copy is what the program is and I
guess it offers an archiving feature. I've had a couple of people
recommend it as making the best quality cd copies and rips of any other
app available.

If you are ripping a CD, they use Linear PCM, so Exact Audio Copy will
give you a LPCM archive - that is the only option.


Of course they can save the LPCM file without conversion, but most ripping
programs will also use a codec before saving the file to disk, if you select
that option. EAC can call many external codecs, or seamlessly use a codec
.DLL like LAME for example. So saying it is the "only" option is not exactly
correct since the data need not even be saved to disk before conversion,
given sufficient memory, which most computers have these days.

MrT.



You are quite right. I was thinking of using EAC for its intended
purpose, the exact copying of CDs.

d

[Steven Sullivan]

don pearce wrote:

WindsorFoxSS wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

"WindsorFox" wrote:

Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

Linear PCM perhaps ?

Graham


That wasn't an option. Exact Audio Copy is what the program is and I
guess it offers an archiving feature. I've had a couple of people
recommend it as making the best quality cd copies and rips of any other
app available.


If you are ripping a CD, they use Linear PCM, so Exact Audio Copy will
give you a LPCM archive - that is the only option.


Not if you configure EAC to pass the .wav file onto a file compressor. Indeed, EAC comes
'loaded' with an mp3 codec for that (some version of LAME, IIRC), and a handy graphic button
labelled 'MP3' to rip a CD 'directly' to compressed format, but you can point it to FLAC.exe
or any other codec you've got.




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Steven Sullivan wrote:

Not if you configure EAC to pass the .wav file onto a file
compressor. Indeed, EAC comes 'loaded' with an mp3 codec for that
(some version of LAME, IIRC), and a handy graphic button labelled
'MP3' to rip a CD 'directly' to compressed format, but you can point
it to FLAC.exe or any other codec you've got.

.... which is where it ceases to fit the description 'Exact Audio Copy'....

geoff

[Arny Krueger]

"WindsorFoxSS" wrote in message


Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

If you care enough to listen to only the very best, then one of the lossless
codecs would be your best choice:

(1) WAV, AIF, WMA lossless, FLAC, Monkey, etc.

If more than about 2: 1 compression is required, then your best choice
would probably be chosen via the method of the weakest link. Determine
which compressed format is supported by all existing or proposed players,
whether portable, studio or home. That will probably break you down to

(2) MP3, MP4, AAC, or WMA.

If you have incompatible portable players, see (1) and resign yourself to
making up special compressed files for each player type.

[WindsorFox[_3_]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
"WindsorFoxSS" wrote in message


Any thoughts on the best file for archiving music???

If you care enough to listen to only the very best, then one of the lossless
codecs would be your best choice:

(1) WAV, AIF, WMA lossless, FLAC, Monkey, etc.

If more than about 2: 1 compression is required, then your best choice
would probably be chosen via the method of the weakest link. Determine
which compressed format is supported by all existing or proposed players,
whether portable, studio or home. That will probably break you down to

(2) MP3, MP4, AAC, or WMA.

If you have incompatible portable players, see (1) and resign yourself to
making up special compressed files for each player type.



That's what I'm doing. Any music that I pull directly from a CD,
record or DVD will be lossless and I'll convert to something else as
needed to put on a portable.

What I seem to be getting is that FLAC is second most common and has
provision for better naming that WMA does, and then there's the open
part of FLAC that is not MS.

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