[Les Cargill[_4_]]

John Williamson wrote:
Bill Graham wrote:
Don Pearce wrote:
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:47:30 -0700, "Bill Graham"
wrote:

No. I live in a country where they make laws against carrying guns,
and where only honest people obey the law, so the only ones who
carry guns are the dishonest ones. Except, of course those few
honest ones who have some common sense. (and thank God for us)

I think all that needs to be said on this subject has now been said.
We all understand your insanity.

Please don't come to England - it might be infectious.

d

Don't speak for, "all". Speak for yourself. there are some who
understand my logic, rather than my, "insanity". I don't know how old
you are, but if you are under 40, then the time will come when you
wish you carried a gun yourself. There are millions of people out
there who would kill you just to please their God, and they are
reproducing at an alarming rate. It is only a question of time.

Living in Britain, as I do, I find that it's very rare for criminals to
carry guns, and the weapon of choice in the inner cities is the knife.
Silent, and cheap to buy and run. The baddies who want to kill me
because their holy men tell them to are more likely to use bombs or
other weapons of mass destruction, and carrying a gun wouldn't be of any
help to me at all in that case. (We lived with the Irish Republican Army
popping off at us for decades, and nobody found it useful to carry a gun
unless they were involved in the local disputes.)

Carrying a gun *may* help you in a situation where you are attacked by a
gun-wielding nutter, but you'd better make sure that you're a better
shot than him, and can get your gun out before he or she fires theirs.
That situation is, IMO, only likely to arise in a society where human
life is held to be cheap. I've heard that drivers in the USA and South
Africa (As well as other countries where people routinely carry guns)
are very polite to each other because they know there's a gun in most
cars, and some drivers are prone to using them if they get cut up in
traffic. In Britain, we're just polite for the sake of it, though a
couple of cases of road rage involving ramming and knives are reported
most years.

The way I read the USA Second Amandment, by the way, would give a
situation very similar to the Swiss situation, where every adult serves
a term in the Army, and has a working gun at home,for the defence of the
State. That is, they have the right (and obligation) to bear arms as
part of a well-regulated militia. It's a pretty safe place to live.
Boring, though.....


The SCOTUS has rejected that interpretation. The "in order to form..."
stuff is now officially of no consequence. Finally.

People simply have the right to bear arms. Like this:

http://www.motifake.com/image/demoti...1288917337.jpg

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Les Cargill

I suspect that's what the American Founding Fathers had in mind, as in
keeping the British out, not making it easy for their citizens to kill
each other off.