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On Aug 3, 12:10=A0pm, "Arny Krueger" wrote:
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It would be interesting to put your ability to the test
under blind conditions to hear all those nasty
distortions on a real high end player with a quality LP.


It's already been done, and it is a slam dunk.


Please excuse my skepticism but you haven't done it with my rig and my
records. If you can identify those distortions by ear with my stuff I
will certainly concede the point. I just don't have any faith in your
alleged "slam dunk." When you "dunk on me" then you can do a little
NBA style trash talkin. Till then it's just talkin.


The LP format audible mangles any music that you record on it.

Here's the challenge. Produce 2 CDs. =A0One of the finished recording tha=

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will be mastered to LP, and one of the best possible transcription of tha=

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recording from a LP made from the same master as was used to make the CD.=

It
is easy to show that a CD can easily be a sonically transparent copy of t=

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original master *and* the LP playback. It is easy to show that the digita=

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transcription of the LP will not produce random guessing in an ABX
comparison of the two. =A0They won't sound just a little different.

I've already come as close to doing this comparison as I could with the
resources available to me, years ago. If you want to try to reduce me to
random guessing, then its up to you to find better resources. =A0Once you=

have
produced your new, improved evidence, then I will sucessfully ABX them wi=

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an audience of witnesses.

I am confident that if you collect this evidence, you will first listen t=

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them yourself and you will be so disappointed that you will never send it=

to
me.


How about this for a challenge. When I get the system out of storage
after I make the big move, I record several of my LPs on my rig on
24/96 and then down load some CDs. Let's say twenty samples. Then you,
by ear, identify which ones are vinyl and which ones are not. I mean
if they are as distorted as you say you should get 20 out of 20 but
I'd be willing to set the bar at 16 correct answers as proof that you
really can hear those distortions even on my system with my LPs of
choice.


I know that will never happen but my money would be
against you.


You already lost the bet.


No we haven't got to the bet. If you want to make my challenge
interesting feel free to make me a proposition. As for now the
challenge is for bragging rights. Show me you can identify vinyl by
ear because of these distortions on my rig with my LPs and you win.
Should be easy no?


And you wonder why some of us think you have
a severe prejudice against vinyl?


I wonder about claims that are so easily falsified.


Well my claim is you will fail in the test I am proposing. Wanna
"falsify" it?


Do show us the peer
reviewed published literature that supports this nonsense
about those of us with this alleged "hearing disorder."


The formal, peer-reviewed literature of the irreducable audible distortio=

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that inherent in vinyl was published in the JAES and IEEE proceedings bac=

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in the days when vinyl was all we had. I've cited it here many times.


Sorry but that is a no show.