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Default High end, small frame mixer for under $1000?


"Mark" wrote in message
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On Apr 25, 9:44 am, "George's Pro Sound Co." wrote:
"Mark" wrote in message

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On Apr 24, 1:12 pm, "Predrag Trpkov"
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"Arny Krueger" wrote in message


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"Mark" wrote in message

On Apr 23, 10:13 am, "Predrag Trpkov"
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Will an older "high end" board really sound noticeably
better than a modern Behringer?


Having switched recently from the Behringer Xenyx 2442FX
to the Allen & Heath WZ 20:8:2 (the first generation of
Wizard mixers, mid-90s, good, but not quite high end),
I'd say yes, it's still a big difference. Even with the
clearly superior A&H preamps and eqs out of the
equation, just listening to a rough mix from the
multitrack recorder, using only faders and pan pots, the
notorious veil is gone. The improvement in transparency
and definition is striking.


I expect to read comments like that in the "audiophile"
groups.


Did you make ANY measurements to verify what you think
you hear?


More to the point, did he do any well-controlled listening tests?


Of course he did, Arny. It's called mixing a record. People do it all
the
time. You and Mark should try it once.


Predrag


this field is a combination of science AND art...
you seem to want to ignore the science part... that's fine if it works
for you..
Mark

I trust my ears over measured specs, a sucessful career spaning nearly 3
decades gives me security in my ability to make things sound great.
I can't tell you how often some "engineer walks up and says"you eq doesn't
LOOK right" or right here my computer says "this sounds great" when in
reality it is harsh and shrill on the verge of feedback
use measurments to design gear but by the time you are in the trenches all
that counts is what the ears say counts

George


this really is one of those "taste great" / "less filling"
arguments...

anyone that relies on measurements alone or on their ears alone is
missing at least 1/2 of the picture.

you need both...

the truth will set you free :-)

Mark


Just like Arny, what you've been trying to sell to a bunch of seasoned music
recording and production professionals here is a misplaced pseudo-scientific
hogwash. Inapplicable in practical terms and quite predictably
counter-productive, it indicates your complete lack of any real-life
experience in the field. In addition to that you're less knowledgeable and
yet more rude and dismissive than Arny.

Predrag