[Clyde Slick]

On 11 aug., 12:36, ScottW2 wrote:
On Aug 10, 10:38*pm, Clyde Slick wrote:



On 10 aug., 20:53, "Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!"

wrote:

As when they are against poor people, like with clunker junker.
that is a giveaway program helping thoe rich enough to afford a new
car, against
those who are not well off enough to buy a new one.
Niow we have taken hundreds of thousands of viable but inexpensive
used vehicles off the market, making it harder and more expensive for
the lower classes to find a good used vehicle.

Its those nasty unintended *consequences again!

Do you have any data to back up your claim? I found this:

I have something you don't have, common sense.
If you crush 750,000 cars in regard to this program,
a good number of them will be otherwise viable cars.
they are crushed rather than exposed to the market for resale.
that is a lot of viable cars in the $2,000 TO $4,500 range
that can't be resold. the laws of supply and demand have not been
suspended.
This makes harder to locate a good cheap car, it raises
the price of them, and it hurts poor people.

The stats you offered are all meaningless.'They wer compiled before
clunker junker, and reltate to
ALL used car sales and within PREVIOUS periods.

And the data on used renatl car sales are at the high end'of the used
car market, while
the clunker junkers areat the low end.

It's also being debated on the ecological benefits.
The C02 footprint required to make a new car is probably greater
than the reduced C02 footprint between the clunker and the new car.
It's sort of like the payback of a hybrid. *It took 400K miles on a
new
hybrid to recover the 10K price differential when I compared a Corolla
to a Prius.
Ecologically, the best thing might be to leave the clunkers on the
road
and reduce energy intensive new car manufacturing...especially until
really low emission options become available in the next 3+ years.

on one hand,
especially if you figure that the life of a clunker is another 4
years.
You would only calculate the pollutiion difference for 4 years.

On the other hand, in 4 years it has to be replaced with something
else, anyway.
so its just a defferral.