[vinyl anachronist]

On Jul 23, 10:12�pm, Bret L wrote:
On Jul 23, 2:53 pm, vinyl anachronist
wrote:





On Jul 23, 12:36 pm, Bret L wrote:

I listened to one of these today built by an acquaintence who
maintained that "he could never build an amplifier", but after I
convinced him that he was a pussy and a failure if he didn't,

Have Steve Sailer and Revilo P. Oliver built amplifiers? If not, they
are pussies and failures. That has to be one of the dumbest things
I've ever heard.

They did not claim to be electronics people who graduated from tech
school, and they had not successfully proved they had basic skills.
This guy understood electronics but wanted to spend a wad on a new
high end saloon amp and I made fun of him because he was going to
spend montsh' of pay on something with poor resale value. By building
his own he gained invaluable confidence and skill and better sound to
boot. Also I kept a couple of thousand dollars out of the high end
saloon's hands.

People need to learn self reliance and logic and clear thinking in
troubleshooting. That carries over to the rest of their life.

Yes, they do. But to place that quality in such a narrow context is
absurd. Let's go wire a house for phone and computer lines so I can
call you a pussy and a failure for not knowing how to properly fish a
wall. Do you know how to terminate an RS-232? Splice a fiber optic
cable? Why not?

It's a foolish way of thinking, in other words. That's why you're
alone.

�That's why you're high.

�I can fish a wall just fine. I put in all the electrical and data/
telecom in my current house, although I NEVER recommend other people
fool with installed power.

�RS-232 is a serial data standard, not a connector type. Typically
they go on D-submini connectors of either solder cup or crimp style,
both of which i have terminated many, many times. Fiber I haven't
fooled with much because of the cost of fiber splicing equipment-but
if I had a need to, i'd learn to do it the same way I've learned most
everything else.

That's not the point. Would you tell people that they couldn't use a
phone unless they knew how to tone out Cat-3 lines to a PBX? Of course
not. That's stupid. It's just as stupid as telling audiophiles that
they have no business being in the hobby unless they can use a
soldering gun or build an amp. It's about the enjoyment of music,
You're mixing up two different things, and you don't even see it.