Les Cargill wrote:


Anybody that could treat Ronnie like he did doesn't have a great
deal of credibility. Dunno - the whole Phil/Ronnie, Sonny/Cher,
Ike/Tina mess is just that - a mess. Ten pounds of poop in a five
pound relationship.

Sure, but drunk people can do some strange things, especially if guns
are around. I have witnessed drunk suicidal women with guns myself.
Fortunately there were no bullets in the gun.

So what really happened at Phil's place? I dunno, I wasn't there.