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On Thu, 5 Mar 2009 03:21:58 -0800, codifus wrote
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On Mar 4, 10:14*pm, Sonnova wrote:

I've tried it on a number of different speakers, heard no difference.


Did you try it with different types of music? Like I pointed out
earlier, it's the types of music that will more likely bring out bi-
wiring's advantages. I've seen your posts and noticed that your taste
in music tend to be classical and that you aren't keen on studio
recordings.


This is audio mythology. It's right up there with ceramic and foam "lifts" to
keep the speaker cables off the floor, myrtle wood blocks, magic clocks, and
$4000 speaker cables. There is NOTHING to be gained by bi-wiring, it does
NOTHING. If you think you hear a difference, its because you went to the
trouble to install a second cable run. You WANT to hear an improvement in
your sound, so your mind provides it. That's the danger of sighted
evaluations. You will hear what you want to hear. Believe me, in a blind A-B
test, you would not be able to tell the difference between a pair of
bi-wired speakers and an identical pair NOT bi-wired.

Well, IMO a studio recording has the tendency to more fully test the
instantaneous dynamic capability of an audio system than a classical
recording ever will. Classical music doesn't invoke the short term
dynamic that bi-wiring brings out.


That's because it doesn't exist. It CAN'T exist. There is no electrical
theory that could possibly account for such a phenomenon.

I like all types of music; live, studio, classical, hip-hop, reggae
etc. Different types of music can make certain capabilities of a
system more readily apparent than other types.


Especially when you want to hear such differences. Look, I'm not saying this
to rain on anybody's parade, I'm merely telling you that any differences that
you think you hear with bi-wiring are all illusions. There are no laws of
electrical physics that apply and when it comes to wire, believe me, the
subject has pretty well been researched to death. There are no unknowns. Wire
is the backbone of the world's information infrastructure. There are billions
of miles of it all over the world. It's properties, at all frequencies, with
all types of signals has been characterized for the last 150 years. We know
everything there is to know about how wire behaves with any kind of signal,
over any distance that you can imagine. I spent more than three years
studying and experimenting with different kinds of wire to be used in
aerospace in the Lockheed cable lab. So you can believe me when I say that
bi-wiring is a myth, so are expensive speaker cables and expensive
interconnects. The only thing about interconnects that you need concern
yourself about is that the cable is constructed so that the shield does not
carry any signal (called quasi-balanced. Interconnects that are designed this
way can be identified because they usually have an arrow on them somewhere
denoting direction. This is because the shield is connected to the RCA
plug's "barrel" on one end, but not on the other. This arrow denotes which
end the shield is connected to (arrow points away from the shield
connection), not the direction of signal "flow". All shields should terminate
at one common point (which would be the pre-amp or integrated amp) for lowest
noise). The only other consideration should be build quality. Cheap cables
invite problems down the line. Good quality interconnects should last
indefinitely and shouldn't cost more than about $30-$50 for a 1 meter pair.
As for speaker cable, any speaker cable of sufficient size should fill the
bill nicely. Something like the clear-jacketed Monster is fine, but like
interconnects, good speaker connections insure reliability. So perhaps
something like the *Monster Z1 with factory applied banana plug terminations
at $2.50/ft or so isn't a bad investment. Again, the point is, with wire, the
terminations and build quality are FAR more important than the wire itself.
Wire is wire. If it is of sufficient gauge to carry the current required
(IOW, 16 Ga or larger for most domestic installations of 20 ft or less), it
is adequate End of story.

*I'm not specifically recommending Monster cable or any other brand. I used
Monster as an example only. Brand doesn't matter. All speaker wire sounds the
same. There is no way that it couldn't.