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On Dec 30, 8:33*pm, Clyde Slick wrote:
On 30 Dec, 20:47, George M. Middius wrote:





Clyde Slick said:

Then lay out your "non-stupid" arguments.

All I'm looking for are rational reasons for your opposition. I
haven't seen any.- Ascunde citatul -
that is your problem.

I'd say the problem is that since you have no rational, non-emotional
objections to SSM, your opposition is entirely emotional and/or irrational.
All he was asking is that you admit that instead of lying.

that's your opinion.

Which part is an "opinion"? You are unable to provide a rational,
non-emotional explanation of your position. The only rationale you have
ever articulated is hewing to tradition. Those are facts. I don't see where
any opinions have wandered in.

Regardless, your continuing of your pathetic "debating trade" dance on this
issue speaks volumes. You can complain from now until doomsday that you
never actually said you hate Gays, but what you have said speaks volumes
about your state of mind. You want to keep Gays out of your little
clubhouse for no other reason than it's *your* clubhouse.

My position is quite simila to Obama's
Opposition to SSM, and support ofr
Civil Union with full rights. So, you
should be telling him that he hates gays.

Do you suppose there might be something called "politics" involved in
Obama's position?

And your appeal to authority is noted, but not valid.

All I hear from you is your incessant
table poinding to have same sex relationships
be accepted by society as normal. They are not.

They are.

We don't accept 'you' as being like 'us'.

They are. Unless you think that gays are not human.

But , of course, you
should have the same rights as we do.

Agreed. That's why they should be able to marry.