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Default Treason, 2pid, plain and simple

On 9 Iul, 20:40, "ScottW" wrote:
"John Atkinson" wrote in message

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On Jul 9, 12:10 pm, ScottW wrote:

the judges who ordered these detainees be treated like
US citizens accused of a crime are treasonous, I agree.


Let's look at a relevant legal reference:

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses,
papers and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,
shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon
probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly
describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to
be seized."

Doesn't specifically state "US citizens." Okay, how about another
reference:

"No person shall be held to answer for any capital, or otherwise
infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand
Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the
Militia,
when in actual service in time of War or public danger;
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So how do you see that as irrelevant?
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*nor shall any
person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of
life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a
witness
against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property,
without due
process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use,
without just compensation."

This refers to "person," not "US citizen."
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OMG...we should arrest every WWII vet.
So Mr. Atkinson.
If called upon per your oath
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure
all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or
sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I
will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of
America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith
and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States
when required by law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed
Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work
of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and
that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of
evasion; so help me God. In acknowledgement whereof I have hereunto affixed my
signature.

would you actually defend this country?
We'll send you to the front, warrants in hand.


as required by law.
I think he would defend it as well as any other old coot.
Most immigrants are more atriotic than the average
born in the USA American. They usually worked hard just to get here
and
top staqy here. If they came from dire circumstances, they
are usually pretty grateful for the opportunity.

AS an example, Gov Schwartzenegger.
He gave up many millions for many films, at ht eheight
of his career, to serve the people of California.