I therefore take the position that any half way competent tech or
engineer
could replicate comfortably any analogue radio production technique in
the
digital domain with any of today's available tools.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

--
Mike Clayton

Agreed...No quarrel with that point whatsoever!

(Monte P McGuire) wrote in message ...
In article ,
mike e wrote:
You know that PT is NOT a pull-it-out-of-the-box ready-to
use-without-the- manual app.

Neither was an analog studio with a tape machine and a razor blade.
Bite the bullet.

So what's wrong with offering that in a software-based program?
Haven't seen it yet.

Perhaps that market is too small? The fact is that people get on with
this sort of production right now, using what's already out there.
Logic would state that there's no real need for it, since something is
else already doing the job.

I think a hell of a lot of people have bought into and other
music-intensive soundware because there's yet to be one sound
alternative offered for simple broadcast production in a software
package other than standalone DAW's that cost a fortune in comparison!

I guess it's basic marketing - creating the perception that you need
all this **** and if you don't there's enough of a belief-system
generated by the industry hype that even if you don't, you're led to
the conlusion that you should accept this as the "ultimate," and
expect or consider no simpler alternative.

My belief is that a solid alternative multitrack broadcast production
software option is decades overdue and long sought after by a silent
majority.

I'll restate it. All the production that people do now is getting
done with tools that already exist. It sounds like a stupid
statement, but it really is deep in the sense that what already exists


OK, Pro Tools is the standard for many and i have no issue with anyone
who finds it a user friendly broadcast production platform.

The title of my original post was obviously flameworthy and bound to
incite happy PT users which i didn't intend-- it was spouted off in a
moment of frustration. So i'll revise and amend my statement and say
it obviously doesn't "suck" if you like it and take the time to learn
how to make it work for you and of course a lot of users have devoted
themselves to doing it and become loyalists.

It also is not necessarily my preferred application, and as many here
point out, there are others to consider which may or may not be more
to my liking. You only need to look at the promotional pitch for a
few standalalone DAW's implying that they are simpler and
easier to work with for those who appreciate the emulation of an
analogue editing environment

I too definitely have no desire whatsoever to return to tape and razor
blades and have been entirely digital with a Fostex system for years.
I have been in production for about 23 years now and this is my
living. To simplify a fundamental point that is being misinterpreted
by some, we have, in the marketplace, such standalone, proprietary
systems as Orban Audicy to cite one fairly most recognizable to
broadcast prod. folks... and others... which, TO ME, are intuitively
are easier right out of the box, as it were...with a less complex
on-screen environment than many multitrack Software apps.


Sure, there could be improvements made to just about anything, but
these days, selling a specialized product is pretty tough. Not many
people see value in trimming out features. Or making specialized apps
that require specific training.

My experience with DAWs has been that they each have a 'best' way to
use them that seems pretty unusual when you first approach them. It's
been so long, but I suppose tape and consoles were that way too. Good
DAWs are flexible enough to be able to handle unusual requests, but
well designed enough to make it fast to use for the daily work.

I've used a few different systems and oddly enough, I find ProTools to
be a relatively simple thing to work with. Sure, you have to know a
few things just to get started, but I don't think it's all that arcane
or filled with features that get in the way of the main functions. By
comparison, Sonic Classic is pretty arcane, and DP can get a little
confusing with all of its tiny windows. But, they all work and I can
get work done with any of them.

Your best bet might be to hire a person who's experienced in using
ProTools (or whatever) for broadcast production and see how they use
it. If your needs are really that simple and you already know the
audio part of how to do production, then figuring out how to run a PT
system shouldn't be more than a day's work and some practice on your
own, given a competent teacher.


Best of luck,

Monte McGuire


Great advice Monte! Agreed! Thanks again for the constructive
feedback
posted here! Much appreciated... Mike