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From: (Nousaine)
Date: 6/23/2004 4:10 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Bromo wrote:

On 6/20/04 11:09 PM, in article , "Nousaine"
wrote:

It's all hand waving with out any specifics. That would be the case here
on
both sides.

Let me ask again. If I'm not mistaken you have said that anything that can
be
heard can be measured or perhaps that was more like 'if you can't measure
a
difference than there would be nothing to hear' or something similar. I
then
asked exactly what measureable differences would explain amp/cable sound
.....
and I don't recall a response.

Again what should we be measuring to confirm 'amp/wire' sound that we
haven't
already done?

It might be that no one knows. If you notice something - even if 10 people
were to denounce you - it does not mean you know the mechanism, nor are you
the expert on what measurements to make.

So how do they "design" products then .... by making random choices? Are some
people just lucky?

Why would you ask the consumer how the designer opperates? I suggest you pose
those questions to actual designers and let them speak for themselves.

If you would say they "listen" to them for validation
then
I wonder why haven't any of them made listening test validation public?

Ask the people who know, the designers. After all these years of debate you
should have already considered this.