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From: Steven Sullivan
Date: 6/20/2004 9:47 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: XcjBc.148843$Ly.52420@attbi_s01

S888Wheel wrote:
From: Steven Sullivan
Date: 6/19/2004 1:50 PM Pacific Standard Time
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Bromo wrote:
Care to provide examples where differences are not measureable?

When you don't know what to measure - or are measuring the wrong things.

And I predicted someone would retort in this fashion, several days ago.
Thanks for proving me right.

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Are you suggesting we should not worry about people measuring everything
that
matters or failing to measure everything that matters?

Hardly. I am suggesting that a common subjectivist
reaction to measurement-based claims of 'no audible difference' is that
the wrong thing has been measured.

hardly the case here since nothing since no specific measurements are being
discussed.

Bromo was kind enough to also allude
to the *other* standby, namely, 'there are things science can't measure
(optional: yet)'.

Actually he didn't. He was clearly speaking about the possibility in the
practical world that some people may simply not be measuring everything that
makes a difference. He made no mention of anything actually being unmeasurable.
Scroll up and see for yourself.

The first could be true, but without some viable suggestion for
what the 'right thing' might be, it's hand-waving.

It's all hand waving with out any specifics. That would be the case here on
both sides.

The second is a
truism, but again, where's the independent evidence or argument-from-data
to believe it's true in *this* case?

There is no "case" here. One can hardly ask for independent evidence in regards
to arguments over hypathetics.