[George M. Middius]

Jenn said:

Time was, Jenn tried to persuade me that dumping scorn on the Krooborg was
deleterious to the health of the group. I think she gave that up.

I gave up trying. I still have optimism that if everyone stopped
dumping on him, he would return the favor, but I could be wrong, of
course. Defending oneself is another matter, note.

It's different in moral value, but equivalent in efficacy. :-)