[Clyde Slick]

On 26 Oct, 14:01, Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
wrote:
On Oct 25, 9:40 pm, Clyde Slick wrote:

at any rate, he [i.e. reagan] shares a lt of credit fpr
winning the cold war, which did us a lot of good.

That's the neocon take. My sister studied in Leningrad (as it was
named then) for several months in the late 1970s. She came back and
announced the Soviet Union was well on the road to collapse from
internal pressures.

The Soviet Union would have eventually collapsed all on its own
without Reagan. Reagan *may* have sped it up by a couple of year, but
that was not worth the massive military spending.

5 factors

A) Reagan
B) Walesa
C) Pope John Paul II
D) Communosm just does not work very well, it flies on the face of
human nature
and, the one more important than the others, though they
are all important,
E) the advent of the PC, the USSR could neither allow it,
nor compete against it. It couldn't handle it
as China later did, it waqs a much more closed society

i have russian friends who were there, they all say
it woulld not have collapsed without the outside influences.