[JBorg, Jr.[_2_]]

JimC wrote:
JBorg, Jr. wrote:
JimC wrote:



As discussed by Gordon Holt in some interesting quotes published in
the December Stereophile, audio developments in recent years, which
have entailed the discarding of objective standards such as blind
listening comparisons, have in some respects reduced what used to be
"high fidelity" to voodoo science. As stated by Mr.Holt:

"... "good" audio is now often defined as "whatever one likes."
And since the only measure of sound quality is that the listener
likes it, that has pretty well put an end to audio advancement,
because different people rarely agree about sound quality. -
Abandoning the acoustical instrument standard, and the mindless
acceptance of voodoo science, were not a parts of my [Holt's]
original vision."

How does Mr. Holt define ACCURACY ?


In other words, you find Mr. Holt's comments somewhat discomforting?


I find Mr. Holt's remarks arrogant and frustrating.


For example, this comment below from him is so meaningless and
non-sensical that I wonder if his internal organs has begun to self-digest
his own brain in lieu of his advancing age.


"... "good" audio is now often defined as "whatever one likes." And
since the only measure of sound quality is that the listener likes it,
that has pretty well put an end to audio advancement, because different
people rarely agree about sound quality. - Abandoning the acoustical
instrument standard, and the mindless acceptance of voodoo science,
were not a parts of my [Holt's] original vision."


He seems to correlate personal taste as a means to put an end to
audio advancement. Only someone with 2 ounce waffle-head like
Howard Ferstler would make that type of pronouncement. Perhaps
Mr. Ferstler paid him a visit and put his tools to good use.

I apologes about my comment with regard to his head though, it's one
of those spur of the moment deals.

In any case, you did share an interest with regards to what we think
about Mr. Holt's commentary.


Anyone see any correlations between the characterizations of Mr. Holt
and opinions posted on rao by the anti-objectivists in recent years?

Jim


I remain interested hearing your views, Mr. Cate, but in order to see
that correlation as requested, I think it's fair to ask of you to clarify
what
you think Mr. Holt inferred by basic 'honesty' control with regards
specifically to double blind testing as you have qouted above.

How does this test maintain honesty and credibility in
high-end audio ?