[Jenn]

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vlad wrote:

On Sep 6, 9:57 am, Jenn wrote:
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ScottW wrote:
On Sep 6, 10:42 am, Jenn wrote:
In article om,

ScottW wrote:
On Sep 6, 10:35 am, Jenn wrote:
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ScottW wrote:
On Sep 6, 10:13 am, Jenn
wrote:
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ScottW wrote:
On Sep 6, 9:42 am, Jenn
wrote:
In article
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ScottW wrote:
On Sep 6, 9:20 am, Jenn

wrote:
A great, great artist. Not my favorite tenor of all
time,
but
undeniably great.

Since opera is not undeniably great, can an opera singer
be
undeniably
great?

ScottW

Yes

Pavarotti aside, the idea that anyone can declare someone
undeniably
great is more than a bit arrogant IMO.

Yes, I'm sure.

So was Babe Ruth and (sic) undeniably great home run hitter?

No, he was fat man who faced relatively poor pitching
by todays (sic) standard.
Barry is not undeniably great either.
Claims of undeniability on a subjective matter is to claim
supremacy of opinion.

ScottW

I see. Well, thanks for your opinion. I believe that there are
undeniably great performers, events, etc.

And you get to select them? How arrogant!

ScottW

Feel free to look up the definitions of "great".

I guess he was "notably large in size".

And yes, we ALL get to select them.

Don't spin. I grant your right to believe he's great.
I object to your claim through undeniability that
a differing opinion has no merit.

Most of us feel that the fall of
Hitler was a great event, for example.

Brett challenges the undeniability of that.

Pavarotti's ability to sing in
tune, with amazing technique, range, and expressivity is widely
considered to be "great" whether you like the music he sang or not.

Widely considered is very different from undeniable.
You're drifting.

ScottW

Whatever. OK, from now on it's "undeniably great for a wide part of the
populace in both subjective and objective aspects of his art."


It is a great loss for the world.

In my opinion he was a real genius, one of the few of our times. Not
only he was a great tenor,
but he was also a great actor - the quality that many superb singers
of today
do not have or neglect.

I'm going to spend quiet evening today watching DVD of "L'Elisir
D'Amore" with him and Judith Blegen.
His recording with Kathleen Battle has better video, but I prefer this
one.


The Vienna State Opera and the Salzburg Festival Hall flew black flags
in mourning.

London's Royal Opera House issued a statement saying,

"He was one of those rare artists who affected the lives of people
across the globe, in all walks of life.
Through his countless broadcasts, recordings and concerts, he
introduced the extraordinary power of opera
to people who perhaps would never have encountered opera and classical
singing.
In doing so, he enriched their lives. That will be his legacy."

vova

Agreed, thanks.