Thanks for the information Dennis. However I don't believe you could
disagree
with anything I had posted. The topic being early CD player sound, I simply
wrote that a CDB 650 was *my* first player. I did however audition the very
first Sony (costing $999.?). A friend had it for audition and possible
purchase, and brought it to my set-up so that we could both listen together.
He hated the sound (too "antiseptic") and I loved it. I never concern myself
with dacs and oversampling and only go by what pleases me. I recall it being
preferred and popular in the early days to employ a CD player as a transport
and a separate converter. Then jitter was discovered and all the separates
were dumped, and it became preferred to listen to the player as a whole.

"Dennis Moore" wrote in message
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Mr. Schwartz,

Not trying to disagree with what you have said.
A 650 was a third or fourth generation player. It would
have had 16 bit dacs running at 4x over sampling.
(TD1541's I think) And would not have the complex
analog filtering at the output by that time.

"Norman Schwartz" wrote in message
My first player was a Magnavox model # CDB 650. To my ears it doesn't
sound
different from any other player I've had since then, the latest being a
Marantz Professional, model PMD 331. I've listened to them via a variety
of
headphones; 2 models of Stax, 2 of Sennheiser, AKG, and several Sonys,
loudspeakers; Magneplanar Tympani IC and IVa.