[JBorg, Jr[_2_]]

Arny Krueger wrote:
JBorg, Jr. wrote




" This issue boils down to whether specially
manufactured, and often more expensive cables, for
connecting audio components to each other and speakers to
amplifier outputs, are better than mass produced, more
standard component connectors and regular speaker wire or
electrical wire ("zip cord"). "


I didn't write the above. It's a part of a User Guide that poster
WhosBest is proposing for Rao.



This would depend on the criteria you use to establish what is better.

For example, MCM Electronics is selling-out Monster Cable DVI cables.
Since they are being sold for bottom prices and can reasonbly be
expected to be no worse than average, I recommended that a customer
purchase a number of them. When we received them, we found that they
differed from other commodity cables primarily in the application of
a plastic braid sheath over the usual cable insulation. This was
obviously an attempt to have a stronger appearance of being "high
end". My customer, being ignorant of the ways of audio's high end was
concerned that the loose plastic sheath was indicative of poor
construction quality. They seem perform no better or worse than any
other DVI cable I've used in that application.
" My opinion is if you use reasonably good component
connectors and keep the connections free of corrosion,
you will not hear the difference between them and the
more expensive connectors. [...]



This is an established fact.



Without regards to cost, how did you determine that the
reader reading what you just stated won't not hear the
difference between your mass produced zipcord and the
more expensive connectors ?

News flash Borg - one compares apples and apples, and not apples and
oranges. Therefore your comparison of zipcord (which is cable) and
"more expensive connectors" (which is cable termination) is invalid.


Are you this desperate?


Well then, without regards to cost, how did you "established" your fact
that a good component connectors free of corrosion will not have audible
differences between them and the more expensive connectors if you
state that comparing zipcord (which is cable) and connectors (which is
cable termination) is invalid ?





***
[...] In other words, special expensive cables don't hurt
anything, but they are a waste of your money. I use mass
consumer grade RCA phono plug connectors for my components and 12 gauge
"zip" cord for my speakers. If you have money to burn, then there is
nothing "wrong" with using them, especially if it
makes you feel better about your system. It's your money. " [...] ***

Exactly. If you're shallow enough that you think that adding a
plastic braid mesh over a DVI cable that functions no different from
a commodity cable adds perceived value, then you you might get to be
the Monster product manager who had to sell the massive unsold
production run of Monster DVI cables to MCM Electronics for pennies
on the dollar.


I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with Monster cables, and unlike you who
willingly recommended them to your ignorant client and customer and
admitted by stating to realize later that Monster Cable were simply
attempting to have a stronger appearance of being "high end" and
perform no better or worse than any other DVI cable.


(see your own comments above.)

You make terrible advice and recommendation at the expense of
your ignorant client and customer. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.





Your section, at least I thought , was about CABLES and
more specifically, about sonic improvements and about
aftermarket cables & wires.

Wire of a certain configuration and weight of copper per foot is
pretty much what it is. At audio frequencies, there is considerable
technical latitude related to construction details. As long as there
is end-to-end continuity and an abscece of shorting between
conductors with different functions, the wire will work about as good
as anything. A few rare counter- examples exist, but few of them can
be found in anybody's listening room.



As far as I know, we were not discussing defective wire construction
here, do you?



and also because you can't hear any differences.

Why is this?

Absence of illusory perceptions.


You ARE dissembling what I wrote and responding out of context.


Is this your propose idea for Rao as "RAO User Guide" ?


Looks pretty sane to me, as opposed to say your typical "Jborg" post,
which is usually flipped-out and hysterical, bordering on insanity.


All you are is talk and make bad recommendation to your ignorant client
and customer. Norm Strong should take a note of these.


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I still have no choice but to reject the rather perplexing Cable section
which
WhoBest proposes under "RAO User Guide."