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Default Why the NRA Gets Its Way

On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:49:41 -0400, "Larry Hewitt"
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And this last line is the key --- biases in the survey.

For in fact the survey is multply biased toward reporting DGUs, and
accepting reports for what they are. That is, the person pulling the weapon
defines the incident, not both parties involved let alone an independent
third party. Thus the most common DGU reported is something like "I saw a
scary person, I brandished my gun, and he ran away".


Kee-****ing-H-christ. Let's say the victim DIDN'T have a gun,
got mugged or raped, and reported it. Are you going to make the same
comment THEN ?? 'Well, there was no independent third party witness,
so it didn't happen' ?

An analysis of Kleck's numbers, even after they are vetted to remove reports
even Kleck finds unreliable, show most rspondents could not_prove_ that a
crime was committed or that the person supposedly doing the threatening was,
in fact, armed. That is, the DGUser was actually the agressor.


What would make you happy as 'proof', a trip to the hospital ?
What if someone reports getting mugged, their jewelry and wallet
stolen - there's no proof they didn't just leave them at home that day
instead, right ? Or maybe the necklace FELL off a while ago, and the
lady didn't notice until now. So, according to you, there can not
have been any crime ?

Face it - there's NOTHING that you're going to admit proves
the case that having a gun is a valid self-defense measure.

So - buh by,

plonk


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