[dave weil]

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 08:25:18 -0400, in rec.audio.opinion you wrote:

He also trotted out one of those occasions where vigilanties prevented
crime. Well, with 12,000 plus gun-related murders a year, and
something like 30,000 gun deaths of all kinds a year, I'm not sure if
it really matters that a handful of lives have been saved by some
amateurs lucky enough not to have killed bystanders or themselves.

'handful' my ass. Most estimates put it at over 1,000,000 per
year. Of course, they can ONLY be SWAG's because, by the nature of
the situations, 90 % + of them go unreported. There's an attempted
mugging or rape in a dark parking garage, the CCW holder shows his/her
gun, attacker runs away, CCW holder gets in car and drives off. No
shots fired, no police report, no statistics. Or Home-owner sees
someone lurking around the bushes, peering in the windows, etc, goes
outside with his/her gun and chases them off. No shots fired, no
police report, no statistics.

Or, in the recent case here in Tennessee, a kid gets murdered by said
homeowner who has discovered that said kid was having an affair with
his wife.

It's easy to claim events that may or may not have happened because
you *think* that it's possible. That's not much of a defense.