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Default My brutally honest opinions on *soundcard* MIDI synths.

On Mar 10, 1:56 pm, "Radium" wrote:
On Mar 10, 1:35 am, wrote:

The "karaoke" effect doesn't have anything to do with FM though. It's
brute force phase cancellation, e.g. something you do on the resulting
audio. I would advise you to find out *why* you like that particular
sound.


As I said before, I like that sound because its warm, bright, fresh,
and rejuventing to me. Compare that to the cheesiness that you would
hear w/out the voice-canceller.

What is going on when you apply the effect? And why does it
sound good to you especially in combination with the YMF262 chip? BTW:
you never even mention the brand and type of the karaoke effect, so
nobody will be able to help you in that regard.


So, it would not be possible to built an FM synth based on the tones
that were out-of-phase on the original YMF262?

To get the effect that I desire, I use a Wave editing software called
Wavelab. I do the following

1. Record audio from the MIDI [within the computer itself*] into a
44.1 Khz, 16-bit, stereo Wave file.

2. After I have completed recording the MIDI song, I invert the phase
of one of the channels [left or right]

3. I then convert this file to mono.

Voila! My favorite effect!!!!

NOTE: My soundcard allows me to directly record audio from the FM
synth into a wave file, so not external equipment is necessary.

Both Creative Music Synth and "SB16 Wave In" are at I/O address 220.


BTW, I also have an external analog voice-canceller that does similar
stuff.

I try feeding only *one* channel [L or R] from the synth to *both*
channels [using a stereo split] of the voice canceller. I get nothing.
However, if I feed both channels of the voice-canceller with both the
left and right of the synth, then I get the effect. This shows that
the synth itself does have significantly-loud signals whose phases are
very different in the left and right channels.