[Arny Krueger]

"Harry Lavo" wrote in message

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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"Harry Lavo" wrote in message


When you start finding that you stop listening to the
"electronics" and start suspending disbelief and
listening to the music as if the musicians are playing
"right there".

IOW, try to be as delusional as Harry is.

Anybody with meaningful real world experience recording
live music knows better.

The total illusion of liveness evaporates as soon as the
music hits the mics.

Reason why is that there is no such thing as just one
live sound. Move your ears around the room. There are as
many distinct live sounds as there are distinct places
to put your ears. No two performances are the same.
There are as many sounds of a piece of music as there
are performances. How dogmatic posturers like Lavo know that a certain
sound is *the* live sound must escape the comprehension
of anybody who actually listens to live music and has
the opportunity to compare a live performance to any
particular recording of it. So, what is the SOTA of recording today? One
steps back
and trys to imagine what a favorable gestalt of a given
live performance would be, and seeks to deliver it
through the audio systems to the listeners who are your
primary market.

Arny, of course, ignores the fact that for a decade I
recorded dozens of live concerts per year.

Not ignoring that at all. It sort of creates a mystery - how you could have
done so much recording and remained so mislead. My resolution of that
mystery is that a lot of time has elapsed since then. You managed to
re-delude yourself despite some reality checks in the distant past.

And that as
an audiophile, I have been listening to high-end systems
since the early '50's (my dad's JBL corner horn/Newcomb
amp/preamp system and Cook "Sounds of Our Times" and
"Audiophile Records" recordings). So I don't think I
need lectures on what can/cannot be captured through the
recording process.

Of course not Harry. You think you know it all.

Take Arny's advice for what it is worth -- a screed.

Nahh Harry, its one of those reality checks that you so badly need. One of
these days you'll wake up and realize why one of us gets all-expenses paid
trips to Manhahattan, and the other can't even get subway tokens for the
same trip.