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Default Great *sounding* CD recommendation?

GT~ wrote:

Only that in quite sujective A-B tests, only those with a tin ear could
not hear the vast difference between CD and SACD. This isn't "oxygen
free copper" Monstercable marketing stuff. This is easily heard. I feel
sorry for those whose hearing defeciency prevents them from hearing the
difference.


My hearing is just fine, ric. And yes, there is a difference, I never said
there wasn't. But not enough for me to justify replacing my current
collection with expensive SACD versions that might not be supported in 5
years should Sony lose out to DVD-A.


Man, you change your point, again. Let's address cost first. The retail
price of SACDs is often the same as for the CD of the same disc. Let's
take Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" for example. Both the CD and
the hybrid SACD retail for the same price, $18.98 according to Amazon.
Amazon is selling the CD version for $13.99. They are selling the SACD
for $13.49, 50 cents *LESS* than the CD. SACD prices are coming down as
more players support the format and more SACDs are sold. Many other SACDs,
such as Norah Jones' "Come Away with Me", are being sold for $13.99 or
less.

No one has suggested replacing your existing CD collection with SACDs,
so this argument is not valid, either (but that doesn't seem to matter
to you.) Only that DVD-A and SACD is an alternative for someone looking
for great sound, as was the OP.

And this is not Sony's battle. About every manufacturer that makes DVD
and/or CD playing equipment makes at least one model of DVD/SACD,
CD/SACD, or DVD-A/DVD-V/SACD/CD player. The SACD format has as good of
a chance of being supported in 5 years as does standard CD.

And how many hybrid players are out there ric? That will support ALL
formats. That will play them back in an equal way?


There are dozens of DVD-A/SACD combo players on the market. What do
you mean by "play them back in an equal way" ?? Do you really know,
or are you just parroting an earlier post by another reader? Post
the reviews if you have them.

My DVD-A/SACD combo player plays CDs, DVD-V, and SACDs just fine. I
haven't tried DVD-A on this machine since I don't have any, and believe
the SACD format is superior.

Or does one have to buy a rack of different players in order to get the
maximum *aual* benefit that comes out of each format?


And you accuse others of being anal retentive audiophiles?

Careful. Your ignorance is showing, again. Most SACD players *are* DVD-V
players. And *all* combo CD/SACD/DVD-A players that I'm aware of will do
DVD-V, too.


And do they play them all to the maximum benefit you would get, as you would
with seperate stand-alone players for each format?


Dunno. Are you talking about $70 stand alones, or $1000+ units?

All of the above (except maybe DVD*R/RW, I'm not sure) being included
is the norm. Kinda kills your above statement that "...And what happens
when one format wins out over the other? You'll be stuck with the
equivalent of an old laserdisc or DAT player." Are you suffering from
"foot in mouth" disease?


ALL of the ABOVE?? Sounds too good to be true. Probably is.


Yep. It's a specification conspiracy. A typical combo player:

http://www.amusicdirect.com/products...ku=AMARADV6400

No. I was just making a suggestion to the OP, who was on a quest for
great sound. You changing your stance from your original "


No, you were making a suggestion that by default, he go out and spend lots
of money and turn himself into an audiophile.


Nothing could be further from the truth. He was looking for great
sound, and I said, "If your system doesn't support SACD or DVD-A,
you are missing out on great sound." And, "As far as a great sounding
regular CD, try a CD demo disk or a XRCD, such as any of the selections
at:"

So how is the above suggesting that "he go out and spend lots of money
and turn himself into an audiophile" ?? SACD players can be had for $150
or less, and SACDs are getting to be the same price as regular CDs.

You'd make an adequate shill for Sony. But only an 'adequate' one.


As you've been told, Sony is but one of dozens of SACD player
manufacturers. But that is a fact, and you've shown little interest
in facts.

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