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From: "Michael McKelvy"
Date: 6/7/2004 12:02 PM Pacific Standard Time
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From: "Michael McKelvy"
Date: 6/6/2004 3:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
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From: "Michael McKelvy"
Date: 6/3/2004 8:33 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id: k.net

Some time ago I was given much grief for positing the idea that the
Universe
could never have not existed, (an idea that seems fairly obvious to
me).

Given grief? You were simply filled in on current scientific thought on
the
subject.

Then current scientific thought stated the impossible could be true, that
nothing could be the cause of something. That's bad science and I chose
to
disbelive it. I still do.

Do you have any idea how funny your post is? Thank goodness we have you to
police theoretical physicists all over the world. Those guys are just
fools if
they don't see things your way. Amazing.

I strongly suspect that I'm not the only one who sees it the way I do.

I don't doubt that. Do you really want to brag about being one of the many
people ignorant about cutting edge physics though? Do you think reality is
subject to popularity polls?

You have no idea how funny it sounds that anybody could actually believe
there could have been a time where "nothing" existed.

No, I do. I have been down the road of explaining current thoughts in
theoretical physics many times. Quantum mechanics and reletivity both often get
belly laughs when first described. Some people get it eventually and some
don't. Bob did a very nice job of explaining the pitfalls of reliance on
practical intuition. It worked fine when we were hunter/gatherers. It betrays
us when we look deeper than we can see with the human eye.