Eddie Runner wrote:


Nousaine wrote:

Eddie Runner wrote:

Hi ya Daxe...
Tom wrote an article in a car stereo magazine a few years ago
that claims moving the box around in a car DOESNT MATTER
the direction the woofers face DOESNT MATTER
and that there are no BASS standing waves in a car and alot of
other things that most of us know are UNTRUE....

So what is true Eddie? Your little cartoons drawings or real time-based
acoustical measurements made with real woofers in real cars.

the little CARTOONS are so that ANYONE can understand it...

Except, apparently, you. The 'waves' you draw in the car are of such a length
that they cannot be of low bass frequency unless that car were 20-30 ft long.


I have
always hated the moron technical guys that cant speak in small words...
I think someone that truely understands something can say it in small words
as well as big words.... IMO building a tech page for the average car
audio buff would not be productive if we used all the big words that
most of them wouldnt understand... I have gone to great pains to have my
pages understood by ANYONE!

You might consider starting with some understanding about acoustics yourself
before trying to teach others.

If you dont like em you have a right to write your own, or even criticize
mine...
Thats why I publish things anyway, to INVITE criticizm!!
Same reason scientists publish papers, to invite critisizm...
UNLIKE YOU,
you make this **** up so the magazines can PAY YOU!! ha ha ha

Eddie; that's why I publish things in the magazines and elesewhere. Have you
given papers at AES Conventions? I have. Do you own and operate a computer
based acoustical measurement system? I do.

Accuracy must not mattter at all... ha ha
And CRITICISM! WHOA!
You get so uptite when we talk about this subject I can hear your ASS PUCKER
all the way down here in TEXAS! ha ha ha

Uptight? I'm not the one running around shouting "LIAR."


If you dont believe my web page on the subject you may feel free to tell
us YOUR THEORY on why all these kids woofer boxes sound best when
aimed backwards!!!

OH THATS RIGHT!
You say it doesnt even do that at all.... ha ha ha!
No need for you to explain the phenomenon case IT DOESNT HAPPEN!
ha ha ha

Every kid on here knows your full of ****!
ha ha

The only thing that happens when you face the driver away from the front of the
car is that you sharpen the low pass filter effect and keep fewer mids and
highs from a straight shot at the front. It is true that many woofer systems,
if not seriously low passed, have terrific IM and AM modulation of higher
frequencies and facing the woofer away will help ameliorate that effect but its
not a bass issue.

If you have some real data to share please feel free to put it on the table.


At the time of the article the TeamROCS guys did an expose article
online debunking the article by Tom Nousaine with lots of meters
test equiment and pictures, I dont know if its still on the teamrocs
website
or not......

I read Toms article and noticed his TEST CAR WAS A CORVETTE!
ha ha ha Not much area to move a box around in that little car at all so
I guess thats why his results were flawed...

Published results were prior to Corvette time Eddie. But since 1988 I've
used a
Saab 99, Volvo 240 wagon, Taurus, Areostar, Integra, CRX, Camaro Z28,
Bonneville, X-Cab Chevie Pick-up and 3 different Corvettes for woofer
evaluations.

And you still say it DOESNT HAPPEN???
ha ha ha

So; you want to argue or do you want to put some data on the table?


all I can say is LIAR!

ha ha
Eddie Runner
http://www.installer.com/t

I'm guessing that Eddie is more comfortable calling names. That's alot easier
than looking at a problem/issue rationally and investigating it with real test
equipment.