"Jacob Kramer" wrote in message
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I don't know what he could have done differently based on what was
known
at
the time.
With hindsight being 20/20 I'm sure we can think of things but
that's
not
really fair.

As a factual matter it's possible to point out mistakes without saying
they shouldn't have been made. If you are unable to do this, that
would show an unreasonable bias toward Bush.

Not if I would hold the same standard for Democrat President or any
other.

That's very generous of you, but it was a Republican and not a
Democrat that was president. This allows you to blame a Democrat,

I wouldn't blame anybody for 9/11 unless there was clear intel that was
ignored.
There wasn't

Clinton, and hold a Republican blameless, Bush.

I don't hold Clinton at fault for 9/11 nor would I if he were president at
the time.
My beef with Clinton in this is that he let OBL slip through his fingers.
Having OBL in custody would not have prevented
9/11 in any case but it certainly would have been a demoralizing blow to Al
Quaeda.

This is a double
standard and a bias that also doesn't make any sense from an empirical
view.

It doesn't make sense because it is not my view. I can't say it any more
clearly than I have repeatedly done so.
The person(s) to blame for 9/11 are Al Quaeda and Bin Ladin, not anyone from
the U.S. governent. It would
have been nice if we had followed through on the recomendations made by the
Comission that Gore headed up,
but neither administration did.

Whether he make mistakes or not is an empirical question, not a
moral question.

I think it's both.

That you are unwilling to observe the mistakes he has
made is a very clear indication of your bias.

What mistakes do you think Bush made that led to 9/11?
Clearly you think there were some, but just ask yourself if
Clinton or any other Democrat wouldn't have made the same ones.
Remember the PDB that everybody was so excited about didn't contain any real
evidence
that was new or that a reasonable person wouldn't think were already been
handled.