[Arny Krueger]

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I would expect that vinyl uber alles advocates would not be
aware
of
any
of
these failings, since many of them seem to have a built-in
"noise
gate"
in
their hearing, that cuts off small details and low levels.

No, they don't.

Facts say otherwise. Live with it. I notice that Jenn has failed
the
noise
gate test two ways. First, she claimed that the Triangle sample cut
out
when
it didn't,

I offered to send you the screen shot. Do you want to see it or
not?

I can make one of my own any day I want to. Just take the good file,
delete
some of it, and do the screen dump.

Since you obviously don't trust me for some reason, how shall I prove
to
you that the file as I received it is how I say it is?


and then she didn't notice the cut out that was present in the
cutlery hanger sample.

She said and I quote:

"I get a nice 9 1/2 second ring."

You don't hear it for 9 1/2 seconds?

Yeah, but it cuts off before things get really interesting.

All I said was that I hear a nice 9 1/2 second ring, as opposed to your
file. IOW, I stated the facts exactly as they are.

Actually, "things as they are" involve my file being far longer than
you've
ever heard it play, right?

Yep.

First off Jenn, you just indicted yourself for judging my file and
publishing your judgements of my file, fully knowing that you have never
heard my file in its entirety.

Secondly, there's not a lot nice about the cutlery file, and I'm surprized
that you never noticed its obvious faults.

For example the cutlery file's inital strike is very harsh-sounding compared
to the triangle file.

It also has a rather pathological decay. The decay is not monotonic, but
rather it increases and decreases quite audibly at least 6 times before it
cuts off. The pathological decay comes from some resonances that are very
unevenly spaced, unlike a fine orchestral triangle.

Then, there's the slight matter of what the cutlery file decays into - some
rather raucuous-sounding noise at a relatively high level.

Of course having a vinyl-lover's noise gate built into your hearing Jenn,
you probably never noticed any of this.

So how is that "claiming that the Triangle sample cut out when it didn't"

You did that before the cutlery file was posted.

and how is the cutlery sample not "ringing for 9 1/2 seconds"?

You said the cutlery file had "a nice 9 1/2 second ring", when it obviously
doesn't. It is nasty and pathological compared to a regular musical
instrument triangle.

I can only hear what is there, yes?

Well Jenn, you've already claimed that you knew what my triangle file sounds
like, while you also admitted that you've never listened to most of it. No
matter, you also got relevant facts wrong about the part you heard.