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"John Atkinson" wrote:

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(paul packer) wrote:
Britain's best 20th century composer was of course Vaughan
Williams.

I LOVE RVW, but I think of him as a 19th century composer, as
indicated by his harmonic language.

Yes. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Same with Holst.

Well...

I think of the various folk music influences as 20th century.

Interesting! I think of them as decidedly 19th century! I'm
re-studying his Folk Song Suite now for performances in March, btw.
Such great songs: Seventeen Come Sunday, My Bonnie Boy, etc.


Tune w/new arrangement is probably as ancient as music itself! I'm
thinking more of the how folk modes show a way to escape the inevitable
ti-do of functional harmony. Collecting (and recording) folk tunes is
also very much a modern activity.


Indeed. Percy Grainger was probably the first to do both.


His transcriptions of folk performances are cool, too. Bartok is the
other famous collector everyone should know about.

I finally learned the name of the 'other tune' from V-W's
"Greensleeves," "Lovely Joan."


It's a neat tune, isn't it?
BTW, and as you probably know, the final movement of the Holst F Suite
for Band was, AFAIK, the first appearance of Greensleeves in a
symphonic work, barely predating RVW's opera "Sir John in Love".


I would have guessed the "Oriental" tune in Busoni's Turandot Suite.

I need to know more about "Sir John" beyond it being a 'folk-song' opera.

Stephen