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What components would you put into the best
money-no-object
music
system in the world?
I nominate:
tube amp: the WAVAC SH-833 - $350,000
turntable: Rockport Sirius III - $70,000
What should be the other components: speakers, preamp,
tuner,
DAC, cd
player, etc.?
The Rockport is FAR from being the best TT out there. I've
heard it,
I've heard the Continuum, and I've heard the Clearaudio
Statement, and
my favorite 'table/arm combo is still the Wilson Benesch Act
ONE with a
Breuer arm, which can be purchased for a fraction of the
price
of those
others.
What difference does it make ?
Graham
Have you been approved to respond to my posts? I don't see you
on
the
list.
Is that some variation on "don't ask me tricky questions I have no
answer to" ?
Graham
Yes, you're right. I don't have an answer to the question, "What
difference does it make?" It was a stupid question. It was far
from
tricky, however. Obtuse, yes. Tricky, no.
So...... What difference does it make ?
Graham
Whether or not you're tricky or obtuse? That's for you to decide.
Your obfuscation is noted.
That's a nice Internet-geek word. Did Arny teach you that one?
There's no obfuscation, only a request, in vain, that you express
yourself more clearly with the written word.
So..... what difference can you hear between any of the above turntables
and
arms ?
What, in twenty-five words or less?
Read my articles, slick.
I read the SL1200 direct drive debate....and I can't agree.
If DD TT inherently vibrated into the spindle..it would be very easy
to measure....yet there aren't any measurements that bear this out.
Now you know, I have a DD table and have had belt drives as well.
I don't hear inherent vibrations in DD or speed variations in belts.
I think this whole issue is trumped up crap where the cottage
manufacturers...like Rega really couldn't do DDs. They wanted
to use little AC synchronous motors, cheap and effective
but lacking the torque of a DD that really showed when
taking a Discwasher to a record to get dust off.
So they started a campaign to besmirch DD that
lives to this day.
http://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/te..._sl1200_e.html
Frankly...I don't think DD or belt as a rule amounts to
audible squat. My AR-XA had no audible speed variation
or rumble either and it was as cheap as cheap can be.
Its all cart/arm and the XA arm was awful.
I had a buddy with a XB and the arm bearing wore out.
It litterally fell off off the post.
I had a Technics table
once too...that monster noodle S arm they use
on all their tables is the problem.
That suckers mass is off the charts...medium high my ass.
Hey..Art is s'posed to making his last west coast swing
before leaving for Europe in a couple weeks.
Let me know if you want to get together.
ScottW
It's funny, but that column about the SL-1200 generated more
controversy than anything I've ever written in the last eight years.
They went nuts for a few days over Audio Asylum, and a couple of other
places as well. Apparently some people love their SL-1200s. I've
heard a few, however, and they fail to excite me in any way shape or
form. And I still haven't had a single person respond to my offer to
bring theirs over to my house for an audition.
As far as the measurements are concerned, you're the first person I've
heard say that. In addition, I've listen to various DD designs with a
stethoscope, including the SL-1200 and the Denon DP-47, and you can
clearly hear motor noise in the platter, much more so than a good
belt-drive design.
Were they both aluminum platters?
Aluminum will conduct noise much more effectively than acrylic.
Thats one reason I'm exploring dampening my platter...If I can get it
off, but it does have a big thick heavy and highly damped matt though
replacing it with a conductive fiber matt made no difference to my ears.
You can conduct a similar experiment with Duals...different drive
systems (belt, direct, idler), yet similar platters. The results with
a stethoscope will be the same.
Not all DDs are the same, however, and I say that
several times in my articles.
Agreed...which is why I said belt drive or DD 'as a rule' 
.
In theory, a direct-drive system is superior to a belt-drive. The
problem is, it takes a lot of money to make that happen, hence the
Rockport.
As far as the visit is concerned, that would be great, but it depends
on the date. I'm going on an extended road trip for a month or so
starting in mid-October.
I think it would have to be the 7th or 8th.
I lost Arts cell phone number and he's already closed his e-mail
and apparently gone off line...like going underground .
You don't happen to have it in your e-mail archives?
E-mail me if you do.
Nope. AOL kicks out everything unless you purposely save it.
Hopefully he'll get in touch. He has all my information.
Boon