I suppose that Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, and Brezhnev had
thought that the slavery, death, starvation, and torture
inherent in their rule were just wonderfully good things,

Slavery? I don't recall slavery being a part of the system.

Shows how incredibly poorly-educated you are sockpuppet wheel. Or how
forgetful.

It was a nifty 2-step. First you declare vast numbers of citizens to be
criminals, and then you put all these millions of *criminals* into prison
camps where they are worked to death.


Thanks for showing you don't know the difference between slavery and political
oppression.



I thought that was us up until the civil war.

That was then, and this was how things were in USSR through most of the 20th
century.


Really. Tell us about the slaves in the USSR Arny. What was the average price
of a slave in the twentieth centry USSR?


Death? Did capitalism cure death?

Stalin ordered the murder of about 29 million of my ancestors during the
first half of the 20th century. I believe his justification went something
like "To make an omelet, you have to crack some eggs". Again, this shows how
incredibly poorly-educated you are sockpuppet wheel. Or how forgetful. Do
Mensa IQ tests cover things like this? I suspect not!


Hmm. This sort of bevavior was unique to the Soviet Union and communism? Thanks
for proving you didn't understand the point. The ability to understand and
solve problems is covered on the Mensa test. The test you are afraid to take.


Starvation? People don't starve in other non-communist countries?

People starve in houses that are full of food, occasional starvation is not
the problem. No capitalism can't do away with all of the effects of
naturally-caused famines, but in the past century capitalist countries have
pretty much managed to avoid the kinds of government-policy-induced famines
seen in North Korea, USSR, China, etc.


Again you missed my point. here is a simple question Arny. Did more people
starve in Russia before or after communism?


and that the freedom and high standard of living
here in the US were just about as bad an evil as anyone
could imagine..

Do you think the standard of living went down for the Russian working
class under communism?

In accordance with communist state policy in the USSR, increases in the
standard of living vastly underperformed such mediocre or worse increases in
worker productivity that somehow took place despite state mismanagement of
the economy. The issue was called "Guns versus butter"


Maybe you could repost this claim using a sentence that actually makes sense.
In the mean time your challenge is to diagram your own sentence.


Were the peasants enjoying an American level of freedom and standard of
living when the Czars ruled Russia?

From the time of the organization of the USA onward, improvements in the
standard of living of virtually all social classes in the US vastly outpaced
increases in the standard of living in the USSR. Communism, if anything
increased this disparity.


Thanks for once again missing the point. You might want to go back and review
specifically what I did and di not compare. Here is a hint, capitalism wasn't
included in my comparisons.



I think this anecdote is relevant. I associated with a Cameroonian who was
working on his PhD in Math for a number of years. He ended up living in one
of the nastier public housing projects in downtown Detroit, which was so bad
that it was subsequently dynamited. He received his undergraduate degree
from the University of Moscow, as I recall. He said that his Detroit housing
situation was vastly superior to that *enjoyed* by middling-high communist
party members in Moscow. His apartment in Detroit did have its nasty
aspects, but it was relatively spacious for two people, well-heated in the
winter, served by a working modern elevator, and had other refinements that
were according to him, fairly rare in Moscow, even among their equivalent of
the middle class.










His was one opinion. I am sure that most people prefer our system to that of
the Soviet Union.Certainly some don't. I certainly do. Maybe you should get
back to us when you can figure out what is being said in the thread. Here is
yet another hint, nowhere in any of my posts did I say communism was better
than capitalism. That should be a good enough anyone including an idiot such as
yourself. How about the Mensa test Arny? Still chicken?