"S888Wheel" wrote in message
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I suppose that Lenin, Stalin, Khruschev, and Brezhnev had
thought that the slavery, death, starvation, and torture
inherent in their rule were just wonderfully good things,

Slavery? I don't recall slavery being a part of the system. I thought that
was
us up until the civil war. Death? Did capitalism cure death? Starvation?
People
don't starve in other non-communist countries?


Come on, we are talking about all the atrocities under Lenin and Stalin.
People were treated as slaves of the state. Forced labor
Forced relocations, breakup of families, forced starvations.

If you wish to make a moral equivalency between the US, and
Russia (under Communism), I can't cure the blind.



and that the freedom and high standard of living
here in the US were just about as bad an evil as anyone
could imagine..

Do you think the standard of living went down for the Russian working
class
under communism? Were the peasants enjoying an American level of freedom
and
standard of living when the Czars ruled Russia?

The issue at hand is good vs evil and the Cold War.
But, for wahtever it is worth, the Tsars sucked too.

Standard of living isn't the issue, either.
Good vs Evil.
I know just thinking about it might cause discomfort
in some people.




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