"Jacob Kramer" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:13:06 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
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"dave weil" wrote in message
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On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 08:52:31 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

No you don't. You just like variations on a theme - a rightist theme.

Just **** off you idiot, you don't understand or choose not to understand
what my viewpoint is. I have posted my views in favor a drug
legalization,
gay marriage, taxation, and other issues and they don't exactly fit into
any
sort of rightwing viewpoint.

Then why don't you support Dennis Kucinich?

Because I can't take anybody seriously who wants to create a Dept. of Peace.
He wants to take money away from Defense spending and he wants more
socialized medicine. IOW he's to the left of Dean. In short I think he's
nuts.

Or the Cato Institute in
its criticisms of detentions of U.S. citizens without habeas corpus?

Because I don't think their criticisms take into account the nature of the
threat of terrorism. In the case of foriegn born terrorsists , they can
rot.

In the case of American citizens who work for foriegn terrorists there is
reason to question the wisdom of some of the Patriot Act. There is however,
the U.S. court system which has in most instnaces found thePatriot act to be
based on previous precedents, mostly in regards to the way we go after
organized crime. I also note that throughout the country's history, during
times of war, some degree of civil liberty has been curtailed. When the
panic is over things return to normal. I have every confidence that it will
do so again.

Jacob Kramer