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Default Recording voice with tubes?

soundhaspriority wrote:

Ty, thanks for your response. I have made the disclaimer, though it
appears to have been lost in the din, that I have no particular attachment
to tubes. I used it as a label, because I thought, perhaps mistakenly,
that people would understand from that label what I'm after, which is some
insight into the class of products reputed to improve the subjective
qualities of a recording through subtle alteration. Many of these devices
appear to have been designed after careful examination of "vintage" tube
devices in order to dissect what they do. In some cases, the deisgns
appear to to copy the circuit; in others, they attempt to copy the effect.


No, they've been designed after careful examination of what will induce
inexperienced people who've never actually used vintage tube gear, and
therefore have no real frame of reference, to part with their hard earned
cash. I don't know what "Vintage" means over at r.a opinion, but the truth
is the tube gear used back in the 50's & 60's was remarkably clean &
accurate. It's only been since about the 90's that this idea of adding
distortion to vocals has reared it's ugly head. (Not counting things like I
am the Walrus, where the vocal distortion was a special effect.)


As an audiophile, I can tell you that I have never been as pleased with
tube as with good solid state; all the high priced tube preamps I've heard
appear to add a second layer of sheen on the sound, which apparently makes
them attractive to customers. Unfortunately, in the lower price tier,
there is a tendency to add a tube for marketing purposes.


Then why do you think it would be any different in the production world?
There are some excellent tube mic preamps out there. They're pretty easy to
recognize. They have names like Manley and DW Fearn and EAR, and they start
at about 2 grand per channel.


The points made here by working professionals are informative, but must
also be taken with a grain of salt. Working professionals have invested
large amounts of money and faith in high priced equipment.


Some have. Most have also used enough cheap gear to understand the concept
of "False economy". And having actually used real vintage tube gear, they
actually know what it really sounds like. They know what it is, and more
to the point, they know what it ain't.