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I just found out that I was talking through my hat
about Bach's Cantatas. The copy I have and dislike the sound of is not
by Telefunken but Archive- a subdivision of D. Gramm. They still
sound poor to me.

Glad to hear that. The Telefunken Bach Cantatas are really goo, I
think. I'm listening to BWV 4 as I write.

(Oh wait! I'm not listening to Bach, I'm listening to Clearaudio! But
I may as well be listening to a Califone!)

I agree that the Archives are spotty at best.

I never heard the Telefunken version but will try.
If I misled someone- apologies. Though I doubt if
anyone pulped his Telefunken on my say so.
Ludovic Mirabel

Jenn wrote:
In article .com,
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Jenn wrote:
In article .com,
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Sander deWaal wrote:
Jenn said:


I think that one of the reasons that I generally don't like Bach
on
piano (other than your stated reason) is that Bach had such
fantastic
control of things that the "tinkle" shows the precision of the
work,
whereas piano, with its inherent resonance and rich overtone
structure
makes it sound "sloppy" to me. Of course, some of that is brought
on
by
the players as much as by the instrument. Bach a la Chopin isn't
my
bag
:-)


Bach was a genius.
Karl Richter, nor Glenn Gould could destroy the beauty of his
compositions.

Nicolaus Harnoncourt and Gustav Leonhardt, just to name a few very
famous Bach performers, showed us the way how to do it.

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--There you a "De gustibus..." Both of them sound to me boring.
But I'll take this opportunity to mention cds that I find wonderful:
the truest cello
sound I heard on record: Janos Starker playing solo Bach's cello
works.

Ludovic Mirabel
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The one on Mercury, or the one on RCA?

Rca(Victrola). I did not know Mercury existed but will try to get it.
Thank you.
I'll claim the right of voicing one's opinion however ignorant and
primitive.

Of course. We all do!

I never shared the general acclaim for Mercury "Living Presence". To
me they sound too "bright" with emphasis somewhere between 2000
and 5000hz. (beyond that I have progressive fall off typical of an aged
male
who used to fire machine gun before anyone thought of protecting
the ear-drums). .

Some of the Mercs are bright, IMO.

As for Telefunken Cantatas they seem to me to be one of the examples of

the D. Gramm. sound at its worst.

On that we disagree. I think that the Telefunken LP sound (on the
Cantatas and some others that I've experienced) is some of the best for
non "audiophile" labels. I certainly agree that DGG generally has
TERRIBLE. It's a shame Karajan, et al were recorded so badly on DGG.
Same applies to many of the Archiv releases.

So there : to each his own. There ain't no test.

Yep.