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Date: Tues, Apr 11 2006 3:34 am
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How about this hypothesis:

The left believes that what seperates the US from the rest of the world
is our civil rights, which the founding fathers thought important
enough to place in a Bill of Rights. The right wants to put things that
*eliminate* rights for people in the bill of rights.

Wow did you read that from some tract they had at the Democratic party HQ?

Of course, nob. Nobody (with the confirmed exception of you, of course)
can think anything through on their own, or make their own decisions.

My perception of the GOP is not that they want to deny any legitiamte civil
rights, but define them as they more approriately should be.

Like a Constitutional amendment against gay marriage for example. Like
reversing Roe v. Wade, for example.

Now that you've pointed it out, I can see it all so much more clearly
now. Thank you.

How about the thought that the left isn't a bunch of treasonous people
intent on destroying the US.

I don't know that they are smart enough to conjure up that well formed a
notion, but one does have to ask after all the damage the Dems policies have
wrought, why they don't back off from some of their looney ideas.

I agree. Why confront global warming, for example? That's obviously a
leftist plot to drive down corporate profits.

The left is indeed too stupid to 'conjure up a well-formed notion' like
treason. Perhaps that's why it's up to those brilliant republicans to
be treasonous all on their own, and who seem intent on bringing about
the Second Coming that much earlier.

The right cannot believe that. How about
the original intent of the framers of our Constitution trying to limit
not only the power of political parties but also that of special
interests. Some of us perceive the right as institutionalizing the
influence of special interests. That (to me) is far more treasonous.

The only reason special interests have power is because government created
it for them by passing laws that treat business as some sort of government
cash cow that they can plunder as they choose.
People who don't like getting ****ed by government cparice started paying
politicians to vothe the way they want.

Ah, yes. If there were no taxes, there would be no reason for graft or
bribery.

Brilliant deduction. What university can proudly call you an alum, nob?
And where can I get the matchbook with the application on it?

I take it that you wholly support the Energy Bill, for example. I'm
just not bright enough to see how that was good for the country, I'm
afraid.

Say, have you noticed all the things suddenly going on around ethanol?
Wasn't it you that told me I was stupid for thinking that might be a
short-term solution? LOL! Dr. Nob swings and misses again!

Naturally government payofffs and the like have been around for a long time,
cazn you say Tammany Hall?

No, but I can say 'DeLay and Abramoff.' Does that count?

When I listen to right-wing radio (and I do, as my military training
tells me to keep an eye on the enemy to the maximum extent possible) I
find myself wondering: has the left ever done *anything* of value, or
for the good of the US? And has the right ever done *anything* wrong?

The obvious answer is that they have both done some good but only when it
was so overwhelmingly bad for them not to, and even that sort of threat
doesn't guarantee they will always.

Why don't you run for president, nob? It appears that you are the only
one smart enough to solve everything.

I was asked by the Dems to run against the local Congressman at the
local caucuses a few weeks ago. Being a business owner and a military
retiree seems to be a valuable commodity politically these days.

I told them no. The republican Congressman here is a moderate, who does
not pander to the extreme religious right and (although he has some
different values than mine) strikes me as honest and forthright. He's
in the middle (but slightly to the right). I'm in the middle (but to
the left). I can deal with that.

The reason I've given you and nob so much **** is that you are both so
far to the right that it strikes me as a farce or a parody (has the
left ever done *anything* of value, or for the good of the US? And has
the right ever done *anything* wrong?).

That's the thing you think you know where I am and you couldn't be more
wrong more often.

Sorry, nob. There are these things, like posts that you've written,
that prove that you're lying. For example, you call me a 'Kool aid
drinking leftist.' Yet you have no similar label for someone on the
right, like 'Neocon fascist Christian raper of the nation.'

So it is 100% valid to look at your posts and to draw conclusions from
them. You are a republican apologist, at the very least.

I think most people are in the middle. If you want to talk about an
excluded middle, you only need to look at the political structure in
the US today.

I think most people want people to work for what they get and no favors from
governemt.

Buy an island and form your own personal Nirvana then. To have anarchy,
no social programs, and therefore no taxes, in a nation of 300 million
is naive at best. Sorry, nob: maybe you will have to move to find that
which you seek.

So here you have a serious reply to a post of yours. The next time you
choose to post some brainless right-wing crap, perhaps you'll better
understand why I'll ridicule you.

Because you are a left wing Kool Aid drinking Leftist, we knew that.

No, nob. Because you and toopid accept whatever you agree with and
discard the rest. You believe in propaganda. That strikes me as
unintelligent.

PS: the role of our government either federal, state or local, is not
to be our 'moral compass.' We all get to decide that on our own.

Yet neither side isever completely comfortable letting us do so.

So tell me, nob: how does the left try to control your moral behavior?

That is the territory of the right.