I'm sorry to say that but the mere fact that the RAO
stalwarts are taking time
to debate this stuff is high comedy of a theatre of the absurd
variety.. There is a French
term for two people who share delusions: "folie a deux". This is folie
a dozen or more,
I don't thinh he's trying to sell anything. The idea that anyone would
buy this
passeth my understanding. But then didn't someone once sell pebbles by
mail?
Ludovic Mirabel
Robert Morein wrote:
"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net wrote
in message ...


Robert Morein said:

No, he's not trying to sell anything. Yet, anyway.

It appears that "PWB Electronics" is a profit making enterprise, and
that
Richard Graham writes a newsletter they publish. They do state, ""What
follows is an introduction to the P.W.B. Newsletters by Dr. Richard
Graham
and his personal view of developments at P.W.B. Electronics.

I must have missed part of your evidence trail. I thought you deduced
Shovels is Graham *because* of that citation on the PWB site. Is there an
independent link between the Graham person and the RAO persona?

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Robert Morein wrote:

It appears most likely that "Soundhaspriority" is actually one Richard
Graham, who gives his address as 9a Marden Road. London N17 6NE, with an
email of .

Fine, you sussed me out. So what do you want now Bob, a dog biscuit?
(BTW, do I still get the $50 bucks for handing in my personal info to
you? I mean, I did go to the trouble to give you a web site link and
all.... That's worth something, when you think about it...)

Mr. Graham, you must cease and desist from further false endorsements in
my
name.

Mr. Morein, I officially declare that you cease and desist from further
falsifications of our conversations, regarding your testing and
approval of: The L-Shape, under audio applications. I realize that you
have mental problems, but I don't think his magistrate will find them
persuasive enough to be a defense, so you should realize that you are
courting a libel suit.

Mr. Graham uses the title "Dr." Does anyone know if he has been awarded
such
a degree from an accredited institution?

Yes, I do. University of Leeds, Dept. of Applied Mathematics. Now how
much do I get for that?
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To my mind, however, whether Graham is Shovels doesn't necessarily affect
the issue of fraudulence. Yes, there's a Web site that purports to sell
various items. Two buts to consider: First, there's no independent
evidence that anybody has actually bought any of that stuff. Second,
Shovels (whether it's Graham or somebody else) has not tried to sell the
stuff on RAO, and it wasn't Shovels who posted the link to the Belts' site
-- it was you. So even if you have a dead-certain ID of Shovels as Graham,
you still haven't demonstrated any attempt to defraud victims.

I'm not trying to show that he has. I am intrigued by the sudden switch from
apparently innocent suggestions, to, "I do have tweaks for glasses,
including aspecial cream that you apply to your eyeglasses to improve the
sound you hear from your
audio system. It's not free though, and certainly not cheap."

This sounds like a commercial solicitation.