From: Arny Krueger
Date: Tues, Mar 7 2006 9:13 am
Email: "Arny Krueger"

Please provide a list of those currently-manufactured CD
or DVD players, preamps, and amps that do not, excluding
PC-based amps, speakers, etc.
Since you have a proven bias against tubed equipment,
let's limit this to SS gear.

Asked and answered.

Please provide where this list can be located, then.

Unless you're saying that all SS equipment is the same, which
apparently your position.

So where is the compendium from you, nob, 124, and
Sullivan showing those that 'don't make the grade'?

I don't think it exists.

Fine. Name two SS amplifiers that have failed then.

Do us all a *real* service and show us those that
'failed.'

I manage to avoid them.

Which SS CD players, amplifiers, and preamplifiers do you avoid?

We know that tubes and LP can sound different from SS
and CD.
To say the least.
Whatever that means.

Huh?

How dishonest of you. You go back, edit what you said, then act
surprised.

Is that a 'debating trade' tactic?

I prefer to have name-brand gear in the absence of other
knowledge. I'll buy a Nikon or a Canon camera over a
no-name every time. The odds are far better that I'll get
quality.

Since my family and myself happen to primarily own and recommend Canons,
moot point.

Missed point noted.

However a comparison between say Souns Faber and Behringer is not a
comparison between no-name equipment. Both are recognized brands with
lengthy track records.

Which one is better?

Yet another straw man argument.

Of your own creation.

And I cannot be wrong in doing things that way.

Huh?

For the record - I can be wrong and have been wrong. Just not a lot of the
time.

And I buy things based on what I like. I've never been wrong.

I already made that decision: I bought whatever sounded
best to me.

Based on what critera - just listening or were you highly biased while
listening?

Based on preference. "What I like." That's what criteria I make my
purchases on. So I was just listening.

And as I said, to most hobbyists it's a waste of time.

Just another unsupported assertion. Yawn.

An assertion that happens to be true. Yawn.

DBTs are not 'reasonably' difficult. I look at the
threads about Jenn's willingness to DBT LP vs. a CD of an
LP. Suddenly, there were pages about how to properly set
it up which were *very* difficult to set up.

And, you don't understand how special the reasons why are, do you Mr. Shhh!?

In that particular case? Sure. In any case? They are too difficult and
time-consuming to be worth it for the average hobbyist. They will buy
what they like.

If someone wants to do DBTs, fine. If somebody doesn't, fine. Both
positions are equally valid to that person.

And there is no way that anyone can be 'wrong' using either selection
criteria.