Poor you, Now that the RAOs prime shyster and the former flea market
hifi huckster joined forces you must be trembling in your boots.
The huckster achieved his goal. You paid him a compliment of taking
notice of his chewed over leavings from Krueger's table. You made his
weekend.
The shyster sounds a little hesitant. I guessed his profession from
internal evidence: the nature of his nit-picking argumentation without
faintest relation to the interest in music: the "When did you stop
beating your wife?" kind.
He exasperated you and he having to deal with him exasperates me. He
reminds me very much of his brother- in- arms Marcus in RAHE whose
profession I also guessed . They must have been learning from the same
prof.
His typical latest is challenging me to design a menu for a
preference ABX session. Why me? He knows that I think that in audio
component comparison ABX is a joke in a bad taste. As witnessed by the
fact that no articles comparing components by ABX appeared in JAES and
none with a positive outcome anywhere else.
I'm sure Olive would have no problem designing an elimination type
comparison between four or twenty speakers if he wanted to. One down,
three to go type of thing. The real Problem would be that he would get
another typical ABX result: "They all sound the same". So there would
be nothing to eliminate.
But Scottie does not really mean anything experiment- tested. He
just wants to hand me another red herring of his design for him to come
out tops.
No such luck.
By the way when did his wife stop beating him for being an obnoxious,
pedantic bore?
Ludovic Mirabel
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Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:
From:
Date: Fri, Mar 3 2006 2:21 pm
Email:

Well then why don't you stop with all the bull**** and admit to what the
rest of the audio researchers agree on? ABX is a good way to listen for
difference.

I have a question, nob:

If all amps sound the same, and all CD players sound the same, and all
preamps sound the same, and all wire sounds the same, why would one
even bother to test them? If the measurements are within 'audible
limits' as has been discussed in other threads, it seems very pointless
for hobbyists to bother with. Just read the spec sheet.

We know that tubes and LP can sound different from SS and CD. We know
that some people have preferences both ways. We know that speakers
sound different. We know that speaker selection is a preference. There
is no need to blind test.

I do not claim to be an 'audio researcher' or a manufacturer. Are you?
And if you are, I think that you should use whatever test protocol
suits your purposes as an audio researcher or manufacturer. Personally,
I get the impression that most of us here are hobbyists, and NOT 'audio
researchers' or 'manufacturers.'

So for you, apparently, these tests would be a colossal waste of time
given your position. For others, who seem to think that wire can sound
different, who cares? If they have the money and they want to spend it
on wire, what difference does it make to you?

Do you point out to automotive people that a Ferrari is a waste of
money, since other automoblies can match that performance level, some
for about $300,000 less? If no, why not?

So really, what is your point? Does this just give you some 'knowledge'
that you feel compelled to try to compel us to use?

PS: please feel free to blind-test a Ferrari at 200 MPH.;-)