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I've heard good analogue tapes (two of the 50s
and 60s original Mercury master tapes, for
example) but never in a home audio setting. I'd
like to try to borrow a good Revox or similar
and hear an excellent analogue master tape and
see if I perceive the timbre issue to be similar
to LP. That would help to determine if what I
like about LP sound is due to colorations
inherent to LPs.


Well assuming you could get the appropriate and
calibrated Dolby A setup, I think you'd be blown
away by how analogue tape takes that "LP sound"
and raises it to six no-trump.


Agreed. The only thing better is CD.

Total nonsense


CD can't *improve* on an analogue master.


Agreed. However it can improve on the system that I
was specifically commenting on, which is a
"appropriate and calibrated Dolby A setup"

Early CDs were often dreadful due to technical
limitations of the then-available equipment and
methods used.


At one point early in the introduction of the CD I
owned every CD title that was sold by any retail
outlet in the midwest US - all 16! They were a
mixed bag - some were dreadful and some are still
among the best-sounding recordings I've ever heard. That tells me
that the best then-available equipment and methods were
entirely adequate, if they were properly used. IOW,
it was all about the human factor, not any
limitations of the basic technology, even as implemented at that
time.


Through a quirk of fate, I recently acquired an
operational CDP-101, the first CD player sold widely
at retail in the US, that I still occasionally use.
AFAIK it is 100% origional. It sounds no different from
the best-sounding modern players including my
SACD/DVD player. It even does a credible job of playing CD-Rs.


If you cannot ear any differences between a CDP-101
and today's best digital player tell us a lot about
your total lack of credibility concerning audio.


Right, since I have crediblity concerning audio, it
tells you that part of having credibility concerning
audio involves having one's facts right.
It also tell us that we should not give a damn
about your opinion about hi-fi.


Depends how interested you are in reliable facts.

For example consider that 2 years after you dumped your
CDP101, probably because it was too sonically accurate
for your tastes, the following was published:

Masters, Ian G. and Clark, D. L., "Do All CD Players
Sound the Same?", Stereo Review, pp.50-57 (January
1986) This article found that in level-matched, time-synched
and bias-controlled listening tests, a panel of about
20 audiophiles failed to reliably sonically
differentiate between a humble CDP 101 and Sony's
latest-greatest high end CD player.
I have owned a Sony
CDP-101 in 1984 and I could not stand its harsh high
(it was giving me headaches) so I sold it
after a bit more than a month.


Myabe you got a bad one. Maybe it was the first time
you heard audio reproduced accurately, as opposed to
the traditional analog/LP sonic smoked glass.

So how is that vinyl system, chump? ;-)

My vinyl system is quite Ok for me (Oracle Delphi), also
my CD system is also OK (Moon Equinox) and also the live
concert I attend regulary (once a week) is also OK

Bingo!

By the way here is own I rated what I hear: LIVE
Performance- Best, LP- Better, CD-from not bad to Very
Good

Bingo!

I always try to get the sound I listen in the live
concert and actually no CD gave me that kind of sound.
Only my Oracle at the moment can bring me close to the
spund I got at the live concert.

Bingo!

Can I detect these vinyl bigots by smell or what?

Oh, you're so WONDERFUL, Arny! A real smell out the
bigots guy!
(DEF) bigot (noun) -- somebody who perceives the world
differently than Arnold Kruger.

Simply not true. I appreciate diverse thought and embrace it quickly as it
applies in helpful ways. What I get tired of is people who keep harping on
stuff that is already well-known to be unhelpful. In audio, the vinyl LP
comes to mind. Tubed audio comes to mind.

LOL!

The irony is that as odd and wrong as he is, Harry thinks he's normal and
right.