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Paul B wrote:


Paul B. again

The average is supposed to be 1dB which is fairly
coarse when stepping through volume but I wouldn't
care to state I could hear even that little in
a DB test!

Your suggestion was investigated by L.Greenhill, Stereo
Review, Aug. 1983,p.51. Using ABX methodology he found
that most of his panel were unable to distinguish
1,75db difference between the volumes produced by a
thick and a thin cable *when music was used as a
signal* Once again: to follow Sean Olive's
investigation; "difference" appears to be the wrong
question to ask if one wants to prove,* for once* that
people can distinguish components. "Which one do you
like better?" (blinded-why not?) is a much better bet.
But of course that sounds too human and not
"scientific" enough

Ludovic Mirabel

If this message appears twice in some servers I
apologise. Google accepted it yesterday but failed to
post it.

It was a lie the first time you posted it and remains a
lie.

I don't have a manuscript of this article, but I believe that Mirabel's
account is factually correct.


I have it. I'll scan it and send it to you. I'm tired of seeing
floobylovers bull**** about it.


You might also want to alert people to the fact that this was a test between
24 gauge zip, 16 gauge zip, and early Monster Cable which professed nothing
more than to be a good quality 14 or16 gauge (depending on model) zip,
albeit at a high price (moderate by today's standards). Is it surprising
that the test between the "16's" didn't show a difference?
Does that have any direct applicability to more esoteric speaker cables of
the last ten years?

Not that the test is invalid, perhaps just your use of it. I think Lud's
point is
that with music, even the 24 vs 16 gauge test with a 1.75 db difference
didn't show a difference,
especially if you take the entire panel into account which you need to do if
you want to draw any "universal" conclusions.