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Default Reprise of the oh-so-obvious


"Steven Sullivan" wrote in message
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"George M. Middius" cmndr [underscore] george [at] comcast [dot] net
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Well, the sun rose and set today, the tides came in and went out, and
sure
enough, duh-Mikey and Sillybot are still nattering on about the
supposed
value of blind "tests" for audio equipment. Regardless of what
******PROFESSIONAL AUDIO DESIGNERS****** might do in their labs and
factories, it's worth repeating one salient fact:

Neither duh-Mikey nor Sillybot has *****EVER***** participated in
*****ANY***** bias-controlled, double-blind listening test of audio
gear.

Not a single one. Ever.


Which is an irrelevant point, even if it were 100% true which it is not,
but
then truth has no meaning for you, does it George.


I wonder what happens if I do a DBT of a component...does George's head
explode?


One can dream. Sigh.

(oops, does that constitute another *death threat*?)


How do you threaten someone who doesn't exist?

I have mentioned doing blind comparisons of speaker wire which is why I
no
longer waste money on designer cable.


Now watch the goalposts change....'it wasn't ABX!!'

Whether or not anybody who advocates blind testing has ever done such a
test
has no bearing on their efficacy. I have not been in the space shuttle,
but
I know they go into space. One needn't actually put one's hand in the
fire
to know it burns. The point is, there are many things that one can know
without actually having done.


Ah, but you see, you're ignoring the 'real world' -- at least, the one
that audiophiles want to be real. In that one, only truly informative
methods are ones that the average consumer (not that audiophiles really
want to be called *that*, but anyway) can use themselves. Even if
science has demonstrated those methods to be quite unreliable.

If we extrapolate this reasoning to the testing of all products and
claims we get...a return to the dark ages, perhaps? Or maybe
it's just encouragement for going into the business of selling Intelligent
Chips to credulous fools.


We don't need no stinking blind tests.
Whaddaya mean ear cones don't actuall;y work?
The mind reels at the incredible stupidity of people who think they are not
subject to the bias that DBT eliminates. Do they really believe that the
entire scientific community working on audio just makes up the results of
the tests that show that people can fool themselves into hearing better
sound out of a comaprison of two systems where no switching even occured?

Do they think the McGurk effect is not another example of how people can be
fooled by their eyes?

Why do seemingly smart people continue to rant and rave about how it's blind
testing that makes things sound the same and not the fact that they actually
DO SOUND THE SAME?

It's the electronic equivilent of faith healing. Even when shown that the
faith healers are frauds, people still continue to believe.

--
-S
"If men were angels, no government would be necessary." - James Madison
(1788)