Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:

From: dizzy
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 01:59:57 GMT

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:

(dishonestly-sniped context restored)

LOL. Right.

dizzy wrote:

Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason! wrote:

For example, E85 is running about 80 cents per gallon less than regular unleaded locally.

There's no freaking way it's that much cheaper, unless it's heavily
subsidized. In fact, I'd be surprised if it was cheaper at all, and
I've read that it takes more energy to produce the alcohol than what's
in the alcohol.

Surprize! It is that much cheaper.

Nope. No way. And then consider the energy content/dollar, and
you'll look even sillier.

Um, I showed you a picture of fuel prices at the pump (which you
snipped and then called *me* dishonest). You do know how to read a
picture, don't you?

Your picture showed a 55 cent difference at the pump, not an 80 cent
difference, as you claimed. In addition, here's a quote from the very
article you referenced:

quote
One sore spot is government subsidies for ethanol. John Hofland is
Minnesota Communications Manager for Flint Hills Resources, which owns
the Pine Bend Refinery in Rosemount.

"The concern is, what role is the subsidy playing in artificially
dropping the price," says Hofland. "We just prefer competitive and
marketplace reasons for a certain price being what it is."
/quote

http://news.minnesota.publicradio.or...eilm_e86sales/

As I stated: There's no way it's that much cheaper unless it's
heavily subsidized.