"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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Robert Morein wrote:
"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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Since you alehouse philopsophers want to waste your time on the
unknowable, here is one for you, entirely on-topic, of course (1).

A well-known, much-proven concept in physics is Entropy. You will find
it in the laws of thermodynamics which control the formation and
dissolution of the universe. Entropy is disorder, randomness easily
mistaken for amorphous chaos.

Andre, with all due respect, your post is loaded with religious faith,

Of course it is.

which
does not coexist well, or interact well, with scientific thought.

Rubbish. Religion sits perfectly well with science to men of the
slightest sophistication. All that is required is a supple mind to
reject the literalism of fundamentalists (1).

Perhaps it depends upon what we call religion. My religion is simply the
wonder that I live in an inescapable world of infinite illusion, and that I
am one of the few creatures with the capacity and interest to realize that.

For most people, however, religion is a collection of dogma provided and
accepted to answer troubling ontological questions at levels tailored to the
mental capacity of the recipient. Thus, we have the rather sophisticated
Eastern myths, which have in many ways inspired modern physics, and the
primitive Western myths, which are hostile to science. Prevelant in the
Western tradition is anthropomorphic deification. A fixation on Creation
disguises the conservation laws of physics, and obliterates the very real
question of whether there is actually a point in the timeline when these
laws were violated.

In my opinion, Western religion is a vehicle for moral education and
political control, which is not necessarily bad. However, for a single
individual to embrace both science and Western religion, a mind must be
divided into spheres of thought. Some individuals, particularly those who
work in areas other than physics, do this well.

But I get the impression you are a Calvinist, and that the Calvinist
doctrine overlays your melding of scientific philosophy. It is your choice,
but I do not find it an attractive one. It is the first cut of my razor.