"Andre Jute" wrote in message
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Since you alehouse philopsophers want to waste your time on the
unknowable, here is one for you, entirely on-topic, of course (1).

A well-known, much-proven concept in physics is Entropy. You will find
it in the laws of thermodynamics which control the formation and
dissolution of the universe. Entropy is disorder, randomness easily
mistaken for amorphous chaos.

Andre, with all due respect, your post is loaded with religious faith, which
does not coexist well, or interact well, with scientific thought. You are no
doubt familiar with the idea of disjoint universes of discourse. Sometimes,
this is not noticed, leading to discussions that have nowhere to go but
where they shouldn't.

One doesn't have to be a materialist to conclude for himself that these two
universes are unconnected. However, there is one person in physics who is
known and respected for his attempt to include the question of consciousness
within the physical framework, Henry Stapp, who works at Lawrence Livermore.
Stapp asserts that the quantum mechanical "observer" is more than a
mathematical curiousity, but rather, creates the physical universe. But
since the Universe existed for a long time before it was populated by
self-aware creatures, we cannot assume that qm consciousness is higher
consciousness.

The other day, I was provoked by the following thought. What if our Universe
is perched on a logical singularity? On one side of the singularity, Occam's
Razor sifts away unnecessary complexity. On the other side of the
singularity, explanations tend to grow more complex, rendering Occam's Razor
useless. This is consonant with the suspicion of some that the attempt of
Physics to find an ultimate, simplifying theory of everything pursues a
nonexistent goal.