"Schizoid Man" wrote in message
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"Michael McKelvy" wrote in message
"dave weil" wrote in message

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 15:56:04 -0800, "Michael McKelvy"
wrote:

Most political observers, the objective ones, don't feel there's
anybody
who
can beat Bush at theis time and under the current circumstances.

That's *exactly* what they said in 1991.

The war was over and he'd broken his promise on taxes.

9/11, Saddam captured, Iraq liberated, Economy rebounding like
gangbusters,


What did you major in? Library Science? Just because the Dow hit 10,000
doesn't mean the economy is rebounding.

It's one symptom.

The job market is still atrocious,

But it is rebounding. Jobs are always the last thing to rebound after a
recession.

spending is through the roof and the internal deficit is growing at a
breathtaking pace.

Not when viewed as all previous deficits have been viewed, as a precentage
of the GDP. We ahve far bigger ones when measured that way and still
rebounded.

Why is it that whenever one talks about the Dems that the Californian debt
crisis becomes such a focal issue, but no one mentions the federal and
trade
deficit?

Because the state of California isn't fighting a war and spent money they
knew they didn't have and then ilegally tried to borrow to fix it.


McKelvy, since you obviously get all your finance news from Drudge Report
headlines, let me give you a crash course:
An increase in internal debt leads to the following:
a. makes it more difficult for the government to pay its ever increasing
debts
b. results in higher interest rates
Not yet.

c. will likely result in higher inflation
Inflation just decreased.

d. the above two will cause bond, and consequently stock, prices to crash
e. consumer spending will be reduced to zero

Only if the proper atmospher is not created to allow us to grow our way out.
The tax cuts that have passed and the ones that are coming will no doubt do
the trick.

Just like Gray Davis imposed illegal taxes on vehicle owners, this
administration imposed illegal trade tariffs on items like steel. Again,
no
coverage in the news (anyone sense a pattern?).

Other countries have tarrifs on our goods or outright restrictions, (try
importing rice to Japan) or government subsidies on their exports.

So, no. The economy is not making out like gangbusters. Yet. And no. He is
not the messiah. You should honestly quit smoking that stuff.

Your wrong on the first count outright. On the second I don't think he's
the messiah, just someone who's working to create an atmosphere to create
growth.

higher approval rating, Prescrition drug benefit, and people like George
W.
Bush better. That plus the fact that the Dems are at war with each
other,
it doesn't look good for anybody beating a popular incumbent.

Remember, there is a certain amount of people that will vote their party
line. Then there's theswing voters, they are the ones that win
elections.
They tend to be more moderate and aren't likely to "swing" towards any
of
the Democrats being offered.


Again, you exemplify your paucity of comprehension. "Swing" voters, as you
call them, are usually on-the-fence Democrats (liberals or socialists, as
some have referred to them) who would vote for a Republic they liked.

And against a Dem they feel is to far out or too weak on defense.



A conservative would rather commit hara-kiri than do the converse.

They just stay home. My in laws are so liberal that rather than vote for a
Republican in the recall, my mother in law voted for "the slut" porn star
and my brother in law voted for the green party candidate, even thougheithre
of the GOP candiates were obviously better choices.