"Arny Krueger" wrote in message ...
"Bruce J. Richman" wrote in message


Robert Morein wrote:

"Arny Krueger" wrote in message
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Like you Morein, AFAIK Richman has offered no evidence on RAO that
suggests
knowledge of the difference between an ohm and a volt.

Which is,l of course, irrelevant re. knowledge or lack of knowledge
about various audio phenomena.


Of course it is irrelevant. Krueger is simply illustrating his
typical use of delusional logic, in which he erroneously infers that
because somebody doesn't comment about a specific topic, such as the
difference between an ohm nad a volt, that they are ignorant. Krueger
employs the same unscientific thinking when he draws the conclusion
that because a poster doeesn't specifically condemn a post of JBorg's,
then they aprove of its content. Needless to say, such
interpretations of "non-reesults' would not ever find there way into
any self-respecting peer-reviewed journal. But then again, Krueger
apparently ha no understanding of scientific methodology commonly used
in the various sciences.



Between the grotesque typos and the abject ignorance, this has to be one of
the funniest posts I've ever seen on RAO. It is also a tacit admission that
I'm right - neither Richman nor Morein know the difference between an ohm
and a volt.

Point of order here - since Richman and Morein by their own admission, don't
know the difference between an ohm and a volt, how can either sensibly
comment on the importance and relevance of this knowledge?

Let me put it this way - think about all the audio products that are
officially characterized in terms of ohms and volts. Every speaker, every
power amplifier, every thing that operates on electrical power, every active
and passive signal processor... the list is seemingly endless.

Consider how nonsensical those characterizations are if you don't know the
difference between an ohm and a volt!

Consider how meaningful those characterizations are to persons who do know
the difference between an ohm and a volt.

Now compare and contrast the highly limited potential audio knowledge of
Morein and Richman who admit they don't know the difference between an ohm
and a volt, with the vast potential for audio knowledge by persons who do
know the difference between an ohm and a volt.

This critical admission also makes at least one of Morein's former claims
into a lie.

NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 17:41:33 -0600
From: "Robert Morein"
Message-ID:

"I've passed the prelim in both theoretical physics and electrical
engineering,"

AFAIK this is difficult or impossible to do without knowing the difference
between an ohm and a volt.

knowing the difference between a volt and an ohm, as different units
of electrical measurement, is absurd.

Since you admit that don't know what that difference between an ohm and a
volt is Richman, how can you claim to judge? This is typical of the
arrogance and ignorance of Morein and Richman - they pretend to be qualified
to judge that for which they lack the basic knowledge required to judge.
They are like wannabe automotive engineers who don't know the difference
between a foot and a pound. Or like chemists who don't know the difference
between a gram and a mole. Or like a cook in the US who does not know the
difference between a teaspoon and a degree. Or like a banker who does not
know the difference between a percentage point and a dollar. The list is
endless.

Knowledge of that difference has nothing to do, of course, with
training or background in electrical engineering.

The sort of nonsense one hears from a person who never took electrical
engineering course number one - which is BTW perfectly normal for persons
with degrees in the liberal arts, especially psychology.


This is of course another example of Krueger's ignorance and prejudice
re. the field of psychology - which is generally considered to be a
social science, and whose practitioners frequently engage in empirical
research that meets the same rigorous standards concerning methdology
as other "liberal arts" like biology, chemistry, physics, etc. - all
of which are taught in most liberal arts colleges. So once again,
Krueger is trying to deceive the public by smearing a professional.
The Google record clearly evidences (e.g. in May, 2003) that this is
not the first time that Krueger has engaged in this sort of defamation
of another field of scientific inquiry. And of course, since it is
one that can be and has been used to evaluate the irrationality of his
posts, he is, understandably, trying to smear it.





Knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts is taught by freshman and
physics classes, and required knowledge prior to entry of many courses that
are at the core of any electrical engineering program.

For example, per http://www.eecs.mit.edu/ug/brief-guide.html the
departmental requirements for a BSEE program include the following courses:

6.002 Circuits and Electronics
6.003 Signals and Systems

You can read what these courses entail at
http://student.mit.edu/catalog/m6a.html

Basically, they require knowledge of the difference between ohms and volts.

For that matter
the use of sound scientific methodology concerning comparative
evaluation of 2 or more products in the same research experiment has
little, if anything to do with electrical engineering per se.

I'm sure that this claim will have any number of actual electrical engineers
rolling in the aisles. Since audio equipment is evaluated within the context
of its specifications, and those specifications are given in terms of ohm,
volts and a few other common engineering units of measure, it is impossible
to properly evaluate audio gear without knowledge of the difference between
ohms and volts.

It has to do with experimental design, knowledge of statistical analysis
methods, and of course, the honesty to use them in an ethical way.

It also has to do with operating the equipment within its specified
parameters which are given in terms of ohm volts and a very few other common
engineering measures.

Whether talking about his hallowed ABX protocols or his deceptive
attempt to use statistics here, many of found him to be severely
lacking.

Given that this many includes people like Morein and Richman, who have now
admitted that they don't know the difference between ohms and volts, it is
obviously an irrelevant criteria.

The very transparent fact that Krueger has repeated the same risable
lie so repetitively in the same post is further evidence of his
ignorance. It also illustrates how delusional liars try and
distribute propaganda through repetition of the same lies over and
over again.


Bruce J. Richman, Ph.D.
Licensed Psychologist